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Any Yosemite experts here?
Posted by bayoubengals88 on 3/26/17 at 7:01 pm10
I've been trying to draw up some hikes for days. Originally I was set on a large loop in the high country until I found out about a shuttle that can take us from the valley back up to Tuolumne Meadows (where we start).
With knowledge of the shuttle, I think it will be best to experience both the high sierra region and the valley in the same backpack (obviously for more diversity).
The most common trail from top to bottom starts at the Meadows near Tioga Rd and hits the John Muir Trail to the Valley. It's too short. Only 21-23 miles.
I think I've found what should be a good 36 mile backpack that veers much further east by traversing Lyell Canyon and Vogelsang Pass, which should be nice. We hope to hike 15 miles on the first day and camp near the intersection of Florence and Lewis Creek. Has anyone camped around here? The next two days will be roughly 10 miles each...any suggestions for camping spots as we get closer to the Valley?
Has anyone been in these parts? Am I missing out or should this be satisfying?
I'm reading that mosquitoes are terrible in Yosemite. Can anyone comment on that?
For reference, this'll be around 20 June
EDIT:By no means do you need to be an expert to post in this thread.
With knowledge of the shuttle, I think it will be best to experience both the high sierra region and the valley in the same backpack (obviously for more diversity).
The most common trail from top to bottom starts at the Meadows near Tioga Rd and hits the John Muir Trail to the Valley. It's too short. Only 21-23 miles.
I think I've found what should be a good 36 mile backpack that veers much further east by traversing Lyell Canyon and Vogelsang Pass, which should be nice. We hope to hike 15 miles on the first day and camp near the intersection of Florence and Lewis Creek. Has anyone camped around here? The next two days will be roughly 10 miles each...any suggestions for camping spots as we get closer to the Valley?
Has anyone been in these parts? Am I missing out or should this be satisfying?
I'm reading that mosquitoes are terrible in Yosemite. Can anyone comment on that?
For reference, this'll be around 20 June
EDIT:By no means do you need to be an expert to post in this thread.
This post was edited on 3/29 at 9:47 am
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by Negative Nomad on 3/27/17 at 12:19 am to bayoubengals88
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re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by bayoubengals88 on 3/28/17 at 6:47 am to Negative Nomad
I'm hoping it doesn't rain
We're prepared for cold
We have bear spray (backpacked Tetons last year)
We're NOT prepared for mosquitoes from what I've read. Can you comment on that? Does deet work?
We're prepared for cold
We have bear spray (backpacked Tetons last year)
We're NOT prepared for mosquitoes from what I've read. Can you comment on that? Does deet work?
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by Lilpickles on 3/28/17 at 7:33 am to bayoubengals88
Beautiful place, the people are a bunch weirdos. Watch your deposits on anything you book...
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by sloopy on 3/28/17 at 12:55 pm to Lilpickles
Why is that? Headed to Yosemite over Memorial Day.
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by thekid on 3/29/17 at 12:32 am to bayoubengals88
Do some research on when Tioga pass opens...it is different every year because of the snow melt.it can be quite late in may early June..I've been about ten times and never had issues with mosquitos
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by CaliforniaTiger on 3/29/17 at 1:53 am to bayoubengals88
I'm no expert, but book your trip around a full moon. No more beautiful sight from glacier point!
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by alphamicro on 3/29/17 at 8:38 am to CaliforniaTiger
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I'm no expert, but book your trip around a full moon. No more beautiful sight from glacier point!
Well that's true, but gotta say that the view of the Milky Way when the moon isn't washing it out is also VERY impressive.
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by Gaston on 3/29/17 at 9:15 am to bayoubengals88
You're going to the steepest place in America to walk the long way around everything? It's beautiful, don't get me wrong, but damn 36 miles? There's got to be something along the way you want to climb. Research climber descents of features along the way and take that to the top of something...anything, scare the shite out of yourself.
Hell, you could just take descent up Middle Cathedral (Spires Gully Trail), camp at the base of Higher Spire and explore from there. Epic exposure.
Through that notch right there and onward. You could stash your crap and travel light.
I love Tuolumne as well, I climbed the Fairview Dome up there, but if I'm heading all of the way out there I want to play on something steep.
Hell, you could just take descent up Middle Cathedral (Spires Gully Trail), camp at the base of Higher Spire and explore from there. Epic exposure.
Through that notch right there and onward. You could stash your crap and travel light.
I love Tuolumne as well, I climbed the Fairview Dome up there, but if I'm heading all of the way out there I want to play on something steep.
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by bayoubengals88 on 3/29/17 at 9:45 am to Gaston
We might do a scramble up one of the peaks. Maybe Fletcher or Vogelsang.
We're not climbers. We're content with just hiking and camping
We're not climbers. We're content with just hiking and camping
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re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by Gaston on 3/29/17 at 9:58 am to bayoubengals88
Almost every climb has a hike down, and there's nothing stopping non-climbers from taking that way up. It's ballsy and I suggest some research, and staying away from things called 'death slabs', but it's the best way to see the park without breaking out a trad rack.
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by bayoubengals88 on 3/29/17 at 11:04 am to Gaston
So you're telling me that there are much better views than Vogelsang pass at around 10,600? Hell, what better view than Glacier Point...besides Half Dome.
I'll look into it
I'll look into it
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by White Roach on 3/29/17 at 2:55 pm to bayoubengals88
I did a short backpack from Tioga Rd to Half Dome, via Clouds Rest, about 20 years ago. I want to say I started late one afternoon, spent two nights (possibly three) and was back out to Tioga Rd. Sorry, but I don't recall what trailhead I started and finished at. Possibly Sunrise...
The view of Half Dome is spectacular from that approach. Maybe a better word is "unique", as so many Half Dome views are from the Yosemite Valley floor perspective.
I practically had the place to myself until I hit the Half Dome approach trail. Then, it was like being in the checkout line at WalMart! I ended up turning around at the cables because it was getting too late to summit and get back down. Disappointing, but still a cool trip!
I eventually summited Half Dome from Happy Isles on a day hike. We started in the dark, and made decent time. We rested, ate lunch, took some pics and headed down after about an hour. In that short period, it had become extremely crowded. If you intend to summit Half Dome, my only suggestion is to get to the cables as early as possible.
Yosemite is such a beautiful place. It can be ridiculously crowded in the valley, but solitude can be had by not moving very far away. Enjoy your trip!
The view of Half Dome is spectacular from that approach. Maybe a better word is "unique", as so many Half Dome views are from the Yosemite Valley floor perspective.
I practically had the place to myself until I hit the Half Dome approach trail. Then, it was like being in the checkout line at WalMart! I ended up turning around at the cables because it was getting too late to summit and get back down. Disappointing, but still a cool trip!
I eventually summited Half Dome from Happy Isles on a day hike. We started in the dark, and made decent time. We rested, ate lunch, took some pics and headed down after about an hour. In that short period, it had become extremely crowded. If you intend to summit Half Dome, my only suggestion is to get to the cables as early as possible.
Yosemite is such a beautiful place. It can be ridiculously crowded in the valley, but solitude can be had by not moving very far away. Enjoy your trip!
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by bayoubengals88 on 3/29/17 at 3:55 pm to White Roach
Thanks for the reply!
Looks like we're gonna have to camp outside the whole damn park in late June because all the walk in campsites aren't open until July or August. What the frick? Do they think we're gonna freeze to death in the 38 degree temps? If I want to camp in Tuolumne Meadows in fricking February that should be MY decision. Bull shite!
quote:While solitude can still be found you wouldn't believe the amount of red tape you must go through to simple hike in the son of bitch now days! I'm about to give up!!
Yosemite is such a beautiful place. It can be ridiculously crowded in the valley, but solitude can be had by not moving very far away. Enjoy your trip!
Looks like we're gonna have to camp outside the whole damn park in late June because all the walk in campsites aren't open until July or August. What the frick? Do they think we're gonna freeze to death in the 38 degree temps? If I want to camp in Tuolumne Meadows in fricking February that should be MY decision. Bull shite!
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by White Roach on 3/29/17 at 5:37 pm to bayoubengals88
I don't know what to tell you about that. The NPS has more rules than Catholic School and many seem to be there just to present obstacles to impede the common folks from enjoying "their" parks. I know they're concerned about "impact", but WTF? Not everyone want to spend the weekend at the Awahnee (but if you get the chance, it's pretty friggin' nice!)
If you're not opposed to a little white lie, you might check into pretending you're thru-hiking the JMT. My brother hiked from Campo to Tioga Rd last season before he had to eject because of health problems. He was able to summit Mt Whitney w/o a permit. You might be able to use this angle in Yosemite, as well.
If you're not opposed to a little white lie, you might check into pretending you're thru-hiking the JMT. My brother hiked from Campo to Tioga Rd last season before he had to eject because of health problems. He was able to summit Mt Whitney w/o a permit. You might be able to use this angle in Yosemite, as well.
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by bayoubengals88 on 3/29/17 at 6:19 pm to White Roach
I called a nearby national forest and they said the snow isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Mentioned that Mammoth Lakes might take all year to dig out, and said they'll be skiing in June.
I think I've found a solution in camping near emigrant wilderness just north of Yosemite. They should open in May at lower elevation and no red tape! Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm such a rule follower it's sickening!
I think I've found a solution in camping near emigrant wilderness just north of Yosemite. They should open in May at lower elevation and no red tape! Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm such a rule follower it's sickening!
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by White Roach on 3/29/17 at 8:34 pm to bayoubengals88
There used to be a link on the Yosemite page of the NPS.gov website that has the historic opening dates of Tioga Rd. I want to say the latest was like July 8th or 10th. That's not when the snow is gone, it's just when they can finally plow the whole road. IIRC, Tioga Pass is just a bit under 10,000' in elevation - 9,800/9,900 something feet.
For that matter, the valley is something like 4,400. Top of Yosemite Falls is over 7,000'.
They also forcast when the cables will be put up on Half Dome.
For that matter, the valley is something like 4,400. Top of Yosemite Falls is over 7,000'.
They also forcast when the cables will be put up on Half Dome.
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by White Roach on 3/29/17 at 8:37 pm to bayoubengals88
What side of the Sierras are you coming from? There's lots of Nat'l Forest land off of 395 on the east side.
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by bayoubengals88 on 3/30/17 at 7:09 am to White Roach
White Roach: I've given up on Yosemite for this year. My only availability is June this summer, and there just won't be much I can do in early summer with all that snow. Tuolumne Meadows campground won't be open until August.
We're gonna be in Bishop the night prior, then drive through Yosemite and camp near Sonoma Pass. Hwy 108 if memory serves...
We'll back pack the large loop in Emigrant Wilderness and then head to N. Lake Tahoe, which is just two hours away.
Planning all of this consumed my whole afternoon, but that's half the fun!
We're gonna be in Bishop the night prior, then drive through Yosemite and camp near Sonoma Pass. Hwy 108 if memory serves...
We'll back pack the large loop in Emigrant Wilderness and then head to N. Lake Tahoe, which is just two hours away.
Planning all of this consumed my whole afternoon, but that's half the fun!
This post was edited on 3/30 at 7:14 am
re: Any Yosemite experts here?Posted by TimeOutdoors on 3/30/17 at 7:35 am to bayoubengals88
Not an expert but I wanted to pass on the title of a book I read about a backcountry ranger in Yosemite years ago. The Last Season, by Eric Blehm. It would be a great book to read on or before your journey.
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