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The Cost of Cord-Cutting
Posted on 6/16/17 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 7:16 pm
Is it being a cheaper option pretty much predicated on who you know with cable subscriptions that share their passwords?
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 7:22 pm to Broski
No. A lot of people do that, so this perception gets built up that it only works if you know someone else with a cable sub, but it's not so.
The biggest problem with cord-cutting is that you'll have to rely on multiple sources for your content instead of your service being all-in-one like cable. But you can buy only what you want and that will end up being a hell of a lot cheaper.
The biggest problem with cord-cutting is that you'll have to rely on multiple sources for your content instead of your service being all-in-one like cable. But you can buy only what you want and that will end up being a hell of a lot cheaper.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 7:27 pm to Broski
I think it also depends where you live.
If you have access to multiple tv/internet providers, there's going to be competition, and you can bounce back n forth between cable and satellite every 1-2 years while taking advantage of new customer bundle pricing. For people that live in more remote areas, that's not going to be possible.
Also depends on the needs of the household. If you just want to watch movies, netflix will suffice. Sports, movies, tv shows, kids programming will require more than one subscription.
As someone mentioned in another thread, cord cutting probably works better for a single person with one tv.
But yeah, some people brag about saving money by cord cutting, but what they're doing is using other people's log-ins and bootlegging movies.
If you have access to multiple tv/internet providers, there's going to be competition, and you can bounce back n forth between cable and satellite every 1-2 years while taking advantage of new customer bundle pricing. For people that live in more remote areas, that's not going to be possible.
Also depends on the needs of the household. If you just want to watch movies, netflix will suffice. Sports, movies, tv shows, kids programming will require more than one subscription.
As someone mentioned in another thread, cord cutting probably works better for a single person with one tv.
But yeah, some people brag about saving money by cord cutting, but what they're doing is using other people's log-ins and bootlegging movies.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 7:37 pm to 632627
Cord cutting is much cheaper. I used to pay direct TV like 170 a month.
Now I pay about 60 per month plus a yearly prime renewal. I use PS Vue, Netflix, Amazon, and Kodi for anything not on those. This is a better experience at a cheaper price. It is a bit more complicated, but not too bad.
Now I pay about 60 per month plus a yearly prime renewal. I use PS Vue, Netflix, Amazon, and Kodi for anything not on those. This is a better experience at a cheaper price. It is a bit more complicated, but not too bad.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 7:55 pm to 632627
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But yeah, some people brag about saving money by cord cutting, but what they're doing is using other people's log-ins and bootlegging movies.
What do people get out of spreading this bullshite? Between Netflix, Amazon, and my OTA DVR, I will never run out of things to watch. Total cost with internet is less than $90/mth taxes and fees included. I pick up the cheapest streaming service that has ESPN during football season, then drop it after, which puts me right over $100/mth on average for the year.
Also, people like to add the cost of Netflix and Prime to their cord-cutting total, but then don't include it in their corded total, even though they were paying them anyway.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:00 pm to Broski
In my case, my internet would have gone up so much that switching from cable to PS Vue would not have saved much. If your cable is already bundled with internet, your internet will go up. People tend to forget about that.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:03 pm to Korkstand
What the OP is referencing is the common cord cutting question and answer:
Q- how do you watch sports?
A- my parents watch espn login. Also use my brothers login for hbo go.
Of course, most don't do this, but if you go through the cord cutting threads, it's there.
Q- how do you watch sports?
A- my parents watch espn login. Also use my brothers login for hbo go.
Of course, most don't do this, but if you go through the cord cutting threads, it's there.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:10 pm to Brosef Stalin
my internet went up when I cut the cable but I still save $70 a month
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:20 pm to 756
Cord cutting can be cheaper, depending on what you watch. A combination of Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, OTA, PSV/DTVN/STV, and internet service is going to offer a wide variety of viewing options at a reasonable rate. You don't have to use other people's login information to watch what you want. The key is choosing a service that offers these features. "Cord Cutters" are not represented by those using Kodi and others logins, and arguing they don't pay anything for cable.
Your argument against it being cheaper is "jumping back and forth between cable and satellite" and using promotional rates 100% of the time. This is not exactly apples to apples...
Your argument against it being cheaper is "jumping back and forth between cable and satellite" and using promotional rates 100% of the time. This is not exactly apples to apples...
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:32 pm to Broski
The cost savings comes from Sling, PlayStation Vue and DirecTV Now offering 90% of the channels you watch now for $20-$65 depending on how many channels and premiums you want. The main hole is the lack of live local channels. You can watch ABC, NBC et al On Demand, but they are not live so no local news or sports or award shows unless you use an antenna.
I was paying $120 for all the normal channels and a DVR, now I pay $55 for PlayStation Vue and get most of what I watched before plus HBO and Showtime. Although I got those 2 premium channels for $10 a month on a 1 year promotion.
I was paying $120 for all the normal channels and a DVR, now I pay $55 for PlayStation Vue and get most of what I watched before plus HBO and Showtime. Although I got those 2 premium channels for $10 a month on a 1 year promotion.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:41 pm to Broski
A big factor is if your isp has a data cap and actually enforce it like mine but we still manage.
In the long run it's cheaper
For one we don't rent a tv boxes or a modem/router combo.
We have pretty standard vue package and Netflix that in total run about $45 on top of internet. Cable and internet would be a lot more. If our isp didn't have insanely low data caps we would use the 100 down $35 a month plan and get the top of the line vue which includes all the movie channels. Unfortunately that internet plan has a 300GB data limit which we blow through in about a week. So we use my parents HBO go and show time log in.
Once we leave this shite hole town and actually have isp options get someone with no cap at a resonable price. Unfortunately Cable One is one of the worst ISPs in the country. With prices and data limits. We have 200 down but a 700GB data cap. In reality we don't need that much speed. I'd take 50 or 100 with no cap and be happy. But with my isp the only way to have a higher data cap is to pay for more speed you don't need.
In the long run it's cheaper
For one we don't rent a tv boxes or a modem/router combo.
We have pretty standard vue package and Netflix that in total run about $45 on top of internet. Cable and internet would be a lot more. If our isp didn't have insanely low data caps we would use the 100 down $35 a month plan and get the top of the line vue which includes all the movie channels. Unfortunately that internet plan has a 300GB data limit which we blow through in about a week. So we use my parents HBO go and show time log in.
Once we leave this shite hole town and actually have isp options get someone with no cap at a resonable price. Unfortunately Cable One is one of the worst ISPs in the country. With prices and data limits. We have 200 down but a 700GB data cap. In reality we don't need that much speed. I'd take 50 or 100 with no cap and be happy. But with my isp the only way to have a higher data cap is to pay for more speed you don't need.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:51 pm to LSUtigerME
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Your argument against it being cheaper is "jumping back and forth between cable and satellite" and using promotional rates 100% of the time. This is not exactly apples to apples...
You are correct, but the "apples to apples" discrepancy goes both ways. There are channels and services that aren't available to cord cutters. For example, in Los Angeles, Sportsnet, the channel that carries lakers and dodgers games, is not available via any streaming service. I was going to sign up for ps vue, it would have been perfect for me, but they don't have Viacom channels which was a deal breaker for my wife. The missing channels issues are much more prevalent on streaming services than traditional cable or satellite.
Further, my jumping back n forth proposal is to get the absolute best price. I left spectrum/twc for an att/dtv bundle at $90/month. My bundled internet, cable and phone price with spectrum was only $120, which on its own isn't bad at all. That was their standard, non promo, pricing. And honestly, even if necessary, is switching back n forth every 2 years that big of a headache?
I get that there are people that have said their current bill is in excess of $200, which I agree is nuts, and I'd absolutely look at cord cutting if that was the only rate available to me. My argument was that most people in larger cities probably have at least 3 providers available, and thus with that competition, they should be able to find affordable service without cutting the cord.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:00 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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So we use my parents HBO go and show time log in.
As I said, this is a common statement in cord cutting threads (no offense to the poster)
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:03 pm to Korkstand
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What do people get out of spreading this bullshite?
Nobody is spreading bullshite. This was my response to what the OP was referencing.
And it's true, people save money by using other's logins. Straight cash homey admitted to such in this thread.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:10 pm to 632627
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Sports, movies, tv shows, kids programming will require more than one subscription.
This isn't true.
Plus you can't even watch all the sports and movies you want with just cable any way.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 12:06 am to 632627
quote:You said, and I quote:
Nobody is spreading bullshite.
quote:I'm saving a bunch of money, and I don't use anybody's logins.
some people brag about saving money by cord cutting, but what they're doing is using other people's log-ins
quote:He did, but that's a choice he made that is independent of whether he's a cord-cutter or not. If he had a cable package, he would probably still use his parents' logins to save the money on the premium package.
And it's true, people save money by using other's logins. Straight cash homey admitted to such in this thread.
So it's bullshite. Netflix, Prime, HBO/Showtime... "borrowing" logins for these have no place in the discussion, because people do it to save a few bucks whether they have cut the cord or not.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 4:44 am to Broski
People also forget when you have satellite tv,dish/direct tv, you pay extra taxes,satellite tax etc..., on your monthly bill add in two extra receivers and your close to an extra 30 bucks plus your tv package. I was spending like 145 a month for low end basic packages with dish and 75mbps comcast internet with data cap.
I now spend 42 a month on vue,amazon prime and netflix
thats with taxes and my internet is now 1 gig download with unlimited data for 80.
thats close to 25 bucks cheaper for a ton of better programming to watch and tons faster internet with no data cap for a family of 5.
I now spend 42 a month on vue,amazon prime and netflix
thats with taxes and my internet is now 1 gig download with unlimited data for 80.
thats close to 25 bucks cheaper for a ton of better programming to watch and tons faster internet with no data cap for a family of 5.
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 4:46 am
Posted on 6/17/17 at 7:27 am to Broski
Not at all. It requires an up front investment on streaming devices if you don't already have them but you'll likely break even within half a year.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:30 am to Broski
It was a cheaper option for me without sharing passwords.
By no means an expert and just recounting what I did.
No Change - had Netflix before and after cord cutting
New Cost - attic antenna
New Cost - Playstation Vue
Cut Cost - dumped Direct TV
Have Sony TV and loaded everything through it.
By no means an expert and just recounting what I did.
No Change - had Netflix before and after cord cutting
New Cost - attic antenna
New Cost - Playstation Vue
Cut Cost - dumped Direct TV
Have Sony TV and loaded everything through it.
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:36 am to FLObserver
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People also forget when you have satellite tv,dish/direct tv, you pay extra taxes,satellite tax etc..., on your monthly bill add in two extra receivers and your close to an extra 30 bucks plus your tv package. I was spending like 145 a month for low end basic packages with dish and 75mbps comcast internet with data cap.
This definitely used to be the case, but at least in my market, DIRECTV, att uverse and spectrum cable are now including equipment in the advertised price.
Regarding the extra taxes and fees, my bundle price for Directv and internet is $90/month and the total bill is always $97. About half of that $7 is the regional sports fee, which I believe would exist even if I signed up for a streaming service such as dtvnow or vue.
My very first response to this thread was it depends where you live. In Los Angeles, cord cutting is neither the cheapest or the best option (at least for sports fans, since lakers and dodgers are not available on any streaming service). I'd imagine LA isn't the only area where cable or satellite is still a more viable choice.
I do agree that streaming services such as psvue and dtvnow have made the choice to cut the cord much easier for some people. It's great that those who only have access to one tv/internet provider and were getting raped due to the lack of competition are now able to cut their bills in half.
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