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Switched from iPhone? Here is a tool to release iMessage

Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Johnny4lsu
Opelousas, LA
Member since Apr 2008
5143 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:48 pm
This allows your text messages to work...Apple finally caved to the pressure of this scam they've been running.

Deregister and Turn off iMessage
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48867 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 9:05 pm to
Oh wow. ..... It was this easy the whole time?
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 9:48 pm to
So how much is Apple charging for this?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80743 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 10:28 pm to
What's wrong with iMessage? I don't get it
Posted by Johnny4lsu
Opelousas, LA
Member since Apr 2008
5143 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:03 pm to
Apple has been using iMessage to hold people hostage basically...If you used iMessage and then switched to android, most of your texts from iPhone users wouldn't go through...End result was people bringing the androids back and get another iPhone.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:18 am to
You can turn off iMessage from your phone. Always could.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77854 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:53 am to
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You can turn off iMessage from your phone. Always could.

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61408 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 7:59 am to
This seems more like a feature gone wrong than a conspiracy. I've sent a first time text to 2 people recently that my iPhone immediately detected as other iPhones. I like the fact that it does that because iMessage uses https and gives you delivery status.

When you switch to a new phone how is Apple supposed to know? This really seems like something that should have been a solution provided through the wireless carriers support system (even if Apple creates/handles the deregistration page), they're the ones that know when you switch phones and part of the standard set up of a new phone should be any relevant deactivation of the old phone.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 8:00 am
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13459 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:39 am to
I know of three people who have had this problem. All of them were corrected by turning off iMessage on their iPhone.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21320 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:45 am to
Some people don't realize this though. Its a nice little resolution tool for those who have rehabed away from apple and maybe traded/sold their idevice before deactivating imessage.

Also, my mom has an iphone and I wasn't getting any text from her nor she from I. One day when she was at my house, I checked her settings and she had the option to "send as sms when imessage is unavailable" turned off.

I know. CSB, pics or GTFO, BRB, etc.
Posted by STBTigerr
Mandeville/New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
5345 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 9:52 am to
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I know of three people who have had this problem. All of them were corrected by turning off iMessage on their iPhone. 


Well I know of several people, including myself, that turned imessage off and it still took several days to start receiving texts.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:05 am to
It really is about time. No excuse for taking this long to fix this.

I've posted before that this problem seemed a little overblown, and maybe it still is, but recently my niece bought a Galaxy S5 to replace her iPhone 4. We had some issues with group texts between her and me and my wife's iPhones. We sorted it out but it was a PITA.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 11:10 am to
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This seems more like a feature gone wrong than a conspiracy.


Definitely. But there will always be crazies out there that think that mean old Apple is out to get them.

What's funny is that I believe the truth is actually worse. It's been broken for years and they're just now figuring out how to fix it

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When you switch to a new phone how is Apple supposed to know? This really seems like something that should have been a solution provided through the wireless carriers support system (even if Apple creates/handles the deregistration page), they're the ones that know when you switch phones and part of the standard set up of a new phone should be any relevant deactivation of the old phone.


I think that it would probably be best for Apple to automatically drop the phone number once the iPhone has been reset to factory.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28684 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:13 pm to
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This seems more like a feature gone wrong than a conspiracy.
This might be believable if it didn't take them years to streamline the process. Also, hijacking someone's phone number is a huge no-no, and the consequences of that had to come up on day 1 of planning. Apple knew what they were doing, and chose to ignore the problem until they were sued.
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When you switch to a new phone how is Apple supposed to know?
Well, problem #1 is Apple shouldn't have to know when you switch phones in order for you to receive text messages on a phone made by another manufacturer. Also, by nature of being a chat service with delivery confirmation, Apple knows exactly how long your phone has gone without checking messages. They could easily send you an SMS asking to turn off iMessage after only a few days, rather than the 30+ they wait before deactivating it. Also, they could have turned off iMessage immediately when people called support to do so, rather than still wait days before actually doing it.
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This really seems like something that should have been a solution provided through the wireless carriers support system (even if Apple creates/handles the deregistration page), they're the ones that know when you switch phones and part of the standard set up of a new phone should be any relevant deactivation of the old phone.
Except the only reliable method of iMessage deactivation, until now, has been doing so on the phone itself. Which, as you might imagine, is a problem if the reason for switching is a dead or lost iPhone. Calling Apple support to deactivate it is well-documented as being hit-or-miss, and there is really no excuse for this. There have always been too many easy solutions to this "problem" for it to have remained for so long, that the only explanation is Apple did it intentionally. Especially now with the timing of this deactivation page and the associated lawsuit.

Stop apologizing for Apple's blatant manipulation of customers.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61408 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Stop apologizing for Apple's blatant manipulation of customers.


I'm not apologizing, I just think the way the Wireless business is set up, this should something handled automatically on their end when you switch phones. If this problem has been around for years and this deregistration page is new then that is a bad move on Apple's part but an equally bad move on the wireless providers part for not getting Apple to make this happen sooner.

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Apple shouldn't have to know when you switch phones in order for you to receive text messages on a phone made by another manufacturer.


You are right that Apple could make it much easier, detect SMS messages coming from a known iMessage number rather than iMessages and send them an SMS message asking if they want to deactivate iMessage. They certainly are no hero here, I'm just not sure they're a villain, they're a company that's been dropping lots of balls lately.
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