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Someone help me with AT&T Next

Posted on 9/11/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Rev1897
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 12:59 pm
Is this worth doing? I want to buy a 64GB Iphone 6... it doesn't look like I am eligible for a regular upgrade, just AT&T Next.

Anyone used this before? Seems like you are getting hosed, paying $30 a month for a phone over 18 months, when everyone else gets to sign a new contract and get the phone for $199.00.

Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:00 pm to
It's a scam.
Posted by Murtagh
Metairie, La
Member since Feb 2008
2044 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:03 pm to
you lease the phone. that's about the easiest way to say it.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20982 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:03 pm to
Its supposed to quench those who need a new phone every year and have no self control... ATT makes a killing
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Seems like you are getting hosed, paying $30 a month for a phone over 18 months, when everyone else gets to sign a new contract and get the phone for $199.00.


the contract plans are cheaper on next plan



you were always paying full price for the phone pretty much, because they were including that subsidized cost into your plan costs


now you pay for the phone outright or in installments and you get a cheaper service plan


every situation is different, and some people may end up spending more depending on how often they upgrade and how many GB of data they purchase

i'm not 100% up to speed with NEXT, but with Verizon EDGE, the discounts on the plan are higher if you purchase 10GB of data or more


it's not a scam....it's just not going to benefit everyone the same





eta: the people most likely to benefit from these plans are the people who want to upgrade more often....or the people that don't care about upgrades and may use the same phone for 3 years


also, i don't think that individuals or even couples really benefit from these plans, unless they have phones that are paid off and opt for the cheaper service
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5568 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

AT&T Next


AT&T screwed me when they started this program. My wife and I are not on contracts; I have a nexus and she is eligible for an upgrade. However, if I buy her a new phone on contract pricing, I have to pay the contract price PLUS they will raise the cost of my monthly plan $25 (this isn't the next plan). So over two years, the S5 was going to cost me $800 plus tax. B/c of this, they tried to sell me on the Next plan which would be a few dollars less, but I think I'd still end up paying $600 for the phone.

Sorry AT&T. I'm not going to pay full price or more for your phones filled with bloatware.

tl;dr - AT&T will raise the price of my plan if get a phone through them and don't use the next plan.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

the contract plans are cheaper on next plan



Now they are, because AT&T structured them that way. But for customers like myself who have been on the old school unlimited plans for years, it's a scam. Or rather, people who pay to rent the phone for X amount of months and then trade it in for a new rental are.. not smart.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22623 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:32 pm to
I did the math the other day.

For my family (3 iPhones), no shared data plan..plus the cost of the three phones on the 2-year plan, I pay about 5100 over the two years.

On the next play, with a 10 GB data plan and upgrading from my current phones (2 - iPhone 5, 16GB, 1 - iPhone 5c, 16 GB) on the next plan, over two years, I pay just under 5600.

For me, it isn't worth is unless I want to have a new phone every year.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
hand the kid down one of the iphone 5's, and only upgrade 2


thats what I'm planning to do personally
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:36 pm to
What's the point of the NEXT plan when you can only upgrade every 18 months?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:40 pm to
quote:


every situation is different, and some people may end up spending more depending on how often they upgrade and how many GB of data they purchase



tl;dr version:
If your AT&T data plan is 10GB or greater, or you expect to keep your phone longer than 2 years, you save money with the installment plan rather than upgrading.

On the Mobile Share Value Plans, if you don't get the free upgrade and have over 10GB of data you get a $25 discount per line per month. Under 10GB the discount is $15 per month.

A $649 phone has an upgrade price of $199 + $40 activation fee. So $27.09 per month on an installment plan for 24 months vs $9.96 per month prorated upgrade cost over 24 months.

On a 10GB or greater data plan you lose your $25 discount by upgrading, so you're actually paying $25 + $9.96 or $34.96 per month to upgrade rather than paying just $27.09 per month on a 0% interest installment plan. The numbers aren't favorable for the smaller data plans though, $15 + $9.96 = $24.96. So if you have a smaller data plan you actually save a few dollars per month by upgrading. However you've just increased your plan rate $15 per month, so you start losing money if you keep your phone much longer than 2 years.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Its supposed to quench those who need a new phone every year and have no self control... ATT makes a killing


In my situation they're kind of giving me no choice. I'm on a small business plan and each line is $15/month. Well, when I'm going to renew my contract, they're going to bump that up to $40/month for my line, unless i go with ATT Next and the line will stay at $15/month, but they'll charge me $30/month for the phone. So my option is pay $200-300 now and an extra $25/month or just go with ATT next, put no money down and have my phone bill go up $5 more than when I would have put 200-300 down. So that's only $120 extra I'll be paying over the 24 month contract with no money down up front.

tl;dr going with ATT next will save me at least $80 over the life of the contract.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

TigerinATL


Yep, what a bunch of convoluted shite.
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

What's the point of the NEXT plan when you can only upgrade every 18 months?

You choose 12 or 18 months. For me it would be the same or slightly cheaper per month than what I'm paying now, plu there is no activation fee or initial payment on the phone.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

What's the point of the NEXT plan when you can only upgrade every 18 months?


They have a 12 month upgrade eligibility option as well. On the $199/$649 models you go from $27 per month over 24 moths to $32 per month over 20 months.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22623 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

hand the kid down one of the iphone 5's, and only upgrade 2


thats what I'm planning to do personally


Well, his is newer and he really likes it, but if I wanted to, I'll just stagger the upgrades where I'm not paying all three Next installments at once. There are a bunch of ways to do it and it work out better. I'm anal about shite like this and just want the best deal possible.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:46 pm to
Now, I know you have to trade the phone in when you get a new one, but does this mean that ATT retains ownership of the phone while I use it?
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Now, I know you have to trade the phone in when you get a new one

It depends on when you trade it in. When your payments are finished you own your phone. If you keep it longer then your payments will go down. You could then sell it and start over if you like.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:14 pm to
Does the phone have to be in perfect condition?
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Does the phone have to be in perfect condition?

Not perfect, but "good physical and fully functional condition."
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