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Security Camera System...
Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 8:22 pm
So...Need some help...I have been using the dropcam with cloud recording for my business inside. It is AWESOME!!! I would love to use them outside, but they are for indoor use only.
Is there anything similar for outdoor use that you know of? I bought the Arlo 4 camera set which seems pretty cool, just not as good as dropcam. Any success stories using dropcam outdoors?
Is there anything similar for outdoor use that you know of? I bought the Arlo 4 camera set which seems pretty cool, just not as good as dropcam. Any success stories using dropcam outdoors?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:41 am to dallaslsufan
I have several d-link cameras outside of my home. I don't use their cloud storage, but they have the same cloud recording capability that Dropcam does plus they have a lot more options when it comes to cameras: indoor/outdoor, stationary/pan-tilt-zoom, etc.
(edit: it looks as though I spoke too soon. D-link currently has one camera DCS-935L that does cloud recording, but they have local recording devices that are accessible via the cloud other cameras)
There have been a few threads on surveillance systems. You may find some info here. I've actually added a pan-tilt-zoom d-link since these threads.
Home surveillance systems... anyone here have one?
Home Surveillance System
Looking for surveillance camera advice
(edit: it looks as though I spoke too soon. D-link currently has one camera DCS-935L that does cloud recording, but they have local recording devices that are accessible via the cloud other cameras)
There have been a few threads on surveillance systems. You may find some info here. I've actually added a pan-tilt-zoom d-link since these threads.
Home surveillance systems... anyone here have one?
Home Surveillance System
Looking for surveillance camera advice
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:19 am to dallaslsufan
Posted on 6/3/15 at 1:19 pm to dallaslsufan
Hate to hijack, but I guess I'll just throw my security camera idea in here instead of starting a new thread...
I have a need for about 16 outdoor cameras, but I would rather not part with the $10k that commercial vendors want for such a system. That does include a DVR, misc. accessories, and installation, but I can do it myself much cheaper. I put together a 4 camera system a while back with wireless outdoor bullet cameras and a PC for DVR for about $1550 total. The cameras I used were $250 each, so I could scale that system to 16 cameras for about $4550. Or, I could use the incredibly cheap at $150 Foscam cameras and get it under $3k, but I'm not sure about the quality of those.
So I was thinking about building my own cameras using Raspberry Pi + camera module + USB wifi + dummy camera housing, which after including other required things like SD card and power supply, the total cost is a little under $120. That's not a huge savings over the Foscam bullet cameras, especially considering the time I would have to put in, but the image quality should be much, much better. Also, since the Pi will be running full-blown Linux, these homemade cameras would have the added benefit of limitless programming/scripting capability. So I could make some of them double as wifi access points, or give some two-way audio, or add hardware like backup batteries or sensors or whatever. Hell, I could make smart dash cams for vehicles or equipment like forklifts that, in addition to recording what's happening, could monitor hours, temps, speed/location, etc.
So is this stupid and I should just stick to commercially available stuff, or does it sound like a neat project that some of you might want to try?
I have a need for about 16 outdoor cameras, but I would rather not part with the $10k that commercial vendors want for such a system. That does include a DVR, misc. accessories, and installation, but I can do it myself much cheaper. I put together a 4 camera system a while back with wireless outdoor bullet cameras and a PC for DVR for about $1550 total. The cameras I used were $250 each, so I could scale that system to 16 cameras for about $4550. Or, I could use the incredibly cheap at $150 Foscam cameras and get it under $3k, but I'm not sure about the quality of those.
So I was thinking about building my own cameras using Raspberry Pi + camera module + USB wifi + dummy camera housing, which after including other required things like SD card and power supply, the total cost is a little under $120. That's not a huge savings over the Foscam bullet cameras, especially considering the time I would have to put in, but the image quality should be much, much better. Also, since the Pi will be running full-blown Linux, these homemade cameras would have the added benefit of limitless programming/scripting capability. So I could make some of them double as wifi access points, or give some two-way audio, or add hardware like backup batteries or sensors or whatever. Hell, I could make smart dash cams for vehicles or equipment like forklifts that, in addition to recording what's happening, could monitor hours, temps, speed/location, etc.
So is this stupid and I should just stick to commercially available stuff, or does it sound like a neat project that some of you might want to try?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:13 pm to Korkstand
quote:
So is this stupid and I should just stick to commercially available stuff, or does it sound like a neat project that some of you might want to try?
I used to love projects like this, but I don't have the time to mess with them anymore. My happy medium was to buy Synology NAS and mix-match cameras. Some locations I went with better cameras and some locations I went cheap. I don't need a high res camera in my garage, but I have one outside my garage facing the street. This setup is made to expand and I can add cameras and play with it down the road. It isn't as complex as what you have in mind, but it isn't as simple as buying a box set from costco either.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:43 am to Korkstand
Korkstand, I actually am a commercial vendor, and if someone quoted you $10k for a 16 camera system they must not have wanted to sell you anything. The only way I see that even being remotely close to a decent price is if every camera was wireless. Shoot me a message at tigerbait9876@gmail.com and fill me in on what you need. I'd like to see what I can do for you.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:21 pm to Krypto
quote:You've got mail.
Krypto
The gist of it is, all things considered at this facility, $10k installed is not a terrible price for such a system.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 1:12 pm to Korkstand
Korkstand....you have mail as well. Give me a call when you can and let's see what we can do. I am always very suspect of that other company's specs and system designs. They know security systems, but cameras aren't always their strong suit.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:38 pm to Korkstand
I like the flexibility and I am a huge fan of the Raspberry. I just got Windows 10 running on it and I'm working on a automation project with cloud acquisition. What were you thinking on the housing?
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:51 pm to Scream4LSU
quote:There's tons of fake security cameras. I was just going to pick one that's around $10-15 that is (or claims to be) water resistant.
What were you thinking on the housing?
Something like this
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:44 pm to Krypto
Hey Krypto, I was wondering if you know anyone in the Jackson MS area that does good quality work and follow up. Have a commercial property there that needs some cameras added and updated.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:45 pm to jvbailey3
jvbailey3....I do work all over. Jackson is only about 2 1/2 hours from me. If you want someone more local I could find you someone though. I have friends in that area that are in the electronics field and work with camera installers all the time. Shoot me an email - tigerbait9876@gmail.com - and give me some details. If I can't do it we will find a quality installer to do it.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 6/6/15 at 1:27 am to dallaslsufan
Foscam has outdoor cameras. I prefer them because you can save video with mini-SD cards, the cloud is not required. Also, I believe Foscam has better night vision, a larger field of view, and slightly better video. You can talk through a speaker on the camera, so you can yell at an intruder.
We have done a ton of research lately because we need a baby monitor soon. Foscam is where its at.
We have done a ton of research lately because we need a baby monitor soon. Foscam is where its at.
This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 1:30 am
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:04 am to Krypto
Krypto, when are they going to integrate cameras into door handle hardware? seems like an easy add with electronic access communicating centrally and it would put the camera at a better angle to capture the persons face. Hell just make it an edge storage. I doubt any criminal would know that it's a camera.
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