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Microsoft's $3000 iMac Competitor

Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:41 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:41 pm
M$ Surface Studio



Specs:
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Display: 28-inch 4500 x 3000 PixelSense LCD (192 PPI), 3:2 aspect ratio, Adobe sRGB and DCI-P color settings, 10-point multitouch
Processor: sixth-generation Intel Core i5 or Core i7
Storage: 1TB or 2TB hybrid drive
Memory: 8GB, 16GB, or 32GB of RAM
Graphics: GeForce GTX 965M 2GB (in Core i5 Studio) or GTX 980M 4GB (in Core i7 Studio)
I/O: 4 USB 3.0 (one high power), 3.5mm headphone jack, SD card slot, Ethernet, Mini DisplayPort
Wireless: 802.11ac Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0
Cameras: 5MP front camera with Windows Hello support, 1080p video rear camera
Sound: Stereo 2.1 Dolby audio


1 TB Hybrid drive? If thats one of those useless 2.5" mechanical drives with an SSD cache instead of an actual SSD for the OS then M$ can really go get fricked. There is no place for a $3k+ machine without, at minimum, a SATA SSD for the OS.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 2:43 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27469 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:44 pm to
drive concerns aside, that's a bad looking mother fricker. I'm down.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:02 pm to
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drive concerns aside, that's a bad looking mother fricker. I'm down.

It is a bad looking mofo but at 3k... nope. Like 3k can be a decent amount towards a downpayment to a new SUV I need. Not gonna drop that on a home computer.

I watched most of the Microsoft presser today and ALL of their stuff was targeted to everyone but me.
1) 3d crap with the new version of windows? Useless to me
2) New longer lasting more GPU powered SurfaceBook starting at like 2300$? Expensive as shite for a laptop and not targeted for me.
3) This new iMac competition looks awesome but starting at 3k? Fook that.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17125 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:10 pm to
3G's for a desktop AIO?

Get fricked
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:13 pm to
That dial companion tool looks like one of the coolest tech devices I've ever seen. Some Tony Stark shite



LINK



This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 3:24 pm
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:31 pm to
It seems cool but who really would use this product?
-Designers
-Drawers
-People at Disney / Animation people

But outside of that, anyone?

ETA: I'm more inclined to buy this for my daughters but at 3k, foooookkkkkk no.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 3:32 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:34 pm to
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I watched most of the Microsoft presser today and ALL of their stuff was targeted to everyone but me.



How can they target you? It sounds like you just want the basic laptop/desktop. They already have that, and they weren't releasing a new OS today....
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

It seems cool but who really would use this product?
-Designers
-Drawers
-People at Disney / Animation people


This is exactly who its aimed at. M$ is also trying to mimic Apple in several ways, creating these "cool" products like this is just one of them.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

ETA: I'm more inclined to buy this for my daughters but at 3k, foooookkkkkk no.



Try $99

quote:

It seems cool but who really would use this product?



Well since it is open to developers, potentially anyone. It can already be used to scroll pages, change brightness

I mean it is a pretty damn innovative tool.


Seriously, what could they have offered that would have enticed you? They already have products for most of the business world and at affordable prices. They are trying to hit specific markets.



They are offering 5 input options. Mouse, Keyboard, Pen, Touch, and the Dial

As someone who marks up legal documents all day, I see it as possibly very useful for changing between tickmarks, documents, insert points, etc.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 3:42 pm
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:42 pm to
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They are trying to hit specific markets.

Understand that now. I was hopeful they'd have SurfaceBook 2s (they sorta did but only the absolute high end surface book). Or even have a cheaper version of this "MS iMac". Make a version in the 2k-2500$ price range.

And yes, I see now that the little magic dial thingy can be used on any device but odds are no one is gonna use that on a surfacebook, the dimensions are too small.

ETA: I know the Dial isn't 3k, I was referring to the new "MS iMac". Whatever they're calling it. The station or whatever.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 3:44 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

, the dimensions are too small.


It doesn't have to be used on the screen


The more form factors, the better imo. Not sure how else we're supposed to move forward from a hardware standpoint.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27058 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:43 pm to
Apple shows a new $3000 Mac Pro desktop without a badass touch screen: Amazing! Apple has done it again! I can't believe the resurrected Steve Jobs!

Microsoft shows a new $3000 all-in-one PC with a badass touch screen: frick that! Looks like garbage. Why would I need that?!

Haters gonna hate.

Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:21 pm to
Almost everyone is praising it. Apple just got a wake up call. It's definitely not mass market, but some amazing work went into this.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 8:23 pm to
That's a great meme and all, but it doesn't reflect the attitude of this board at all.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22704 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:09 pm to
Dell made this like 3 yrs ago...
LINK
Obviously some of the Surface specs are better because it's newer and the screen is thinner, but you can still get a Damn good machine for $1K cheaper by buying the Dell.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 9:10 pm
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

That dial companion tool looks like one of the coolest tech devices I've ever seen. Some Tony Stark shite


Yea I'm not even sure how I'd use it, but I'm sure it's cool as frick. That looked like something out of Minority Report.
Posted by Gr8t8s
Member since Oct 2009
2579 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:52 pm to
Now, if it just ran MacOS, they might be on to something.
Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
1372 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:56 am to
You have to be joking. Apple is mocked mercilessly all the time for their overpriced computers.

Microsoft releases an overpriced IMac competitor, and it's "badass".

Some people see what they want to see.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65758 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:06 am to
quote:

Microsoft releases an overpriced IMac competitor

quote:

Some people see what they want to see.


Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27058 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:45 am to
It was hyperbole, especially the Apple dig, but there's some truth to it. I will agree about the SSD. It's 2016 and at a base price of $3k it should have one.

quote:

Like 3k can be a decent amount towards a downpayment to a new SUV I need. Not gonna drop that on a home computer.


quote:

3G's for a desktop AIO? Get fricked


Then this computer is not for you. I think some people see this as an iMac competitor. It's not. It's a competitor to a Mac Pro with a cintiq, which is almost twice the price. In a previous life I was an urban designer, and this thing would have been perfect for our studio where hand drawing and digital graphics merge constantly. There was only so much you could do with a basic wacom, and things like the cintiq were overkill for our modest budget. $3k is obviously a much easer pill to swallow than $6k, not to mention all of our software licenses were for Windows (though I understand that's a little different these days with Adobe's licensing options).

I really look forward to watching this product line evolve and enter the home markets in a few years.
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