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Microsoft Remote Desktop access from another network...advice?

Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:22 pm
So i'd like to be able to access my home pc (windows 10) while i'm in the office on my mac using the "Microsoft Remote Desktop" App.

I already have it setup correctly to where i can access the PC when i'm at home on the same network using the Microsoft REmote Desktop App, but I can't when i'm on a different wifi network, like at work or a friends for example.

just looking for an article or a video on how to do this.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20462 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:23 pm to
my bad, thought i was on tech board. move please.
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:24 pm to
You would need the IP address of the computer

Something like Team Viewer might work best for you
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33839 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:27 pm to
You have to open up the 3389 port for that machine in your router. Then you target your WAN IP address and port number. Depending on your router you can setup a ddns that your router automatically updates or you can use the windows app for the ddns service you use to update the IP.

DDNS is really convenient because you won't lose access when your ISP changes your IP.

I use no-ip.com
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20462 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:37 pm to
thanks guys.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43438 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:48 pm to
You may consider changing the rdp port. People are going to relentlessly try to hack your shite if you leave it on 3389 on a public ip.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8781 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:13 pm to
Look into google chrome remote desktop. Put out by google and completely free. Very easy.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14434 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:43 pm to
TeamViewer ftw
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:55 pm to
I've always used a vpn with remote desktop when connecting from outside network.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77857 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

PhilipMarlowe


1. set up your home computer with a static IP address in your router. trust me, you will want to do this to avoid problems in the future if your router reshuffles IP addresses.

2. open the port as directed above.

3. go to freedns.afraid.org and set up a free domain to map to your local IP

4. go home and type whatsmyipaddress into google and copy that address

5. open up router software, map that IP to the domain you set up in #3 and you're done.

this is good advice whether you're running a webcam or need RDS or anything else. you set this up one time (AND ITS ALL FREE) and you're set for life.


eta if you tell me what router you're using i can probably help with how to set up the domain stuff but its usually pretty self-explanatory.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Dirtman16
Madison, AL
Member since Nov 2012
410 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Look into google chrome remote desktop. Put out by google and completely free. Very easy.


I second this. I've used the Remote Desktop option before with an IP address and opening ports, but the Chrome option is so much simpler, especially if you just need to pop in and do minor tasks.

Remote Desktop is probably a better option of longer uses cases.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

TeamViewer ftw

until TeamViewer fixes their massive security issues - its more like TeamViewer ftl.
I wouldnt use their unattended access under any circumstances right now.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77857 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:47 pm to
true story: set up my parents PC when visiting one time with VNC and 123456 as the password and drove 8 hours home and was planning to change the password to something more secure (i was lazy and didn't want to forget the password).

when i got home and logged in, their PC was already COMPLETELY compromised; it was actually running a PORN SERVER complete with 100s of images and all kinds of crazy shite.

EIGHT.
HOURS.

I told them to pull it out of the wall and remove every cord from the back.

Next time I visited I nuked the computer and even flashed the bios. I'm still a little leery of that PC even today.

Moral to the story: VNC is shite and never take a chance with a weak password ever.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20462 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:16 pm to
good advice all in here.

i did actually just set up the chrome remote desktop on my lunch break (so thanks for the rec), and it was super simple and i'm now back at the office and i'm able to control my pc at home without a problem, however i can't figure out how to make the desktop full screen on my browser? lol

also, i'm worried about the security you mentioned, and i'm thinking i'd like to setup the computer with a static ip as you listed, and then use the microsoft remote desktop app to access it. i'll follow your instructions when i get home this evening

my router is a netgear nighthaw ac1900
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89485 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:27 pm to
Just to reiterate, and this is for others who may read this thread, do not open 3389 and forward to your internal network unless you get your works public IP and in the firewall rule specify a single static as a source address. You will eventually get hacked.

So if you use a single public IP as source it only opens it up to that IP. Any other subnet will not see 3389 open.

Other stuff like Teamviewer is great but also as vulnerabilities and had been hacked.

The absolutely cleanest way is to buy a router that has VPN and use their vpn client.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77857 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

also, i'm worried about the security you mentioned, and i'm thinking i'd like to setup the computer with a static ip as you listed, and then use the microsoft remote desktop app to access it. i'll follow your instructions when i get home this evening


look for the DDNS interface (not sure what software you are running) and hopefully it supports afraid.org


Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77857 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Just to reiterate, and this is for others who may read this thread, do not open 3389 and forward to your internal network unless you get your works public IP and in the firewall rule specify a single static as a source address. You will eventually get hacked.


great advice!

yes you will need your work IP address and possibly your mobile device as well.

i use microsoft remote desktop on my android phone all the time and you'd actually be REALLY surprised how well it works.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89485 posts
Posted on 3/7/17 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5059 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:16 am to
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look for the DDNS interface (not sure what software you are running) and hopefully it supports afraid.org


If it doesn't support afraid.org, I recommend dnsomatic. It will update multiple DDNS services for you, including afraid.org. I use it to update a custom domain name and also my opendns account.
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