re: Let's talk wired home security camera systems...Swann, Lorex, Q-See, Amcrest, etc.

There are a host of problems you could have doing this yourself.
Call a professional and pay for it to be done properly.
You get what you pay for

Guess he was trying to sell me on his services

While it isn't well documented, the depth of focus on a Swann camera is small (i.e. a clear picture is largely only around what the lens is focused upon) and you need to adjust the focus of the Swann cameras to be where you want to look (e.g. if you are looking over a yard, only the location of the yard focused upon will be sharp with the rest more and more out of focus with increased distance from the point of focus.) In other words, the Swann cameras are largely designed for watching a smallish area such as an entry way (or in my applications, the status of equipment movement less than a foot away from the camera.)

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Guess he was trying to sell me on his services

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yeah if you have a tiny bit of technical ability (like you can set up a laser printer) you can set these cameras up.

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outdoor cameras without poe or even just ethernet is a dealbreaker.

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tradional CCTV siamese a deal breaker too ?

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tradional CCTV siamese a deal breaker too ?

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why wont you admit that the most robust bulletproof *home enthusiast DIY* camera is Poe?

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tradional CCTV siamese a deal breaker too ?

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I can't speak for CAD, but for me it would be. It is better in the sense that you don't need an electrician to pull it, but if you're pulling cable, why would you pull essentially a special-purpose cable when you could be pulling a much more versatile and "future-proof" cable that accomplishes the same thing and much more?

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I ask because I'm not an installer or anything, but I do know of a location with 10 extremely cheap PoE cams, 2 wifi cams, and 8 analog CCTV cams with siamese cable. None of the PoE cams have ever dropped, the wifi cams drop constantly, and they lose about 1 analog cam every couple of months. In fact, of the 8 analog cams, I think 2 still work at the moment. They are just too much hassle to keep messing with, and the PoE cams cover where the analog cams used to.

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your move, tigerwise

Just out of curiosity do you know why are the analog cameras are dropping off ?

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That's what you and CAD don't understand. You don't need an electrician to pull camera siamese. It's low voltage.

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That's what I meant, using siamese cable is better than having to run "real" power to a camera because you don't need an electrician. That's what I meant by "it is better in the sense", I was talking about siamese cable vs. plug-in wifi cams. I should have been more clear.

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Sure, ok future proofing. I get that. But it's all gonna be wirless in the future anyway. At least for resi applications.

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I can't see myself preferring wireless over wired in the next 10-20 years. One or more of several things would have to happen.

Battery tech and/or power use would have to make a huge leap, and batteries would have to last nearly a year before being replaced or recharged. I just don't want to break out a ladder and swap batteries several times per year. I think I've mentioned this to you before, if I'm doing all that I might as well pull cable one time and be done.

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Long-range wireless charging would have to become a reality. If the tech could advance to the point where it could keep the batteries topped off, through obstructions, and without frying people in between, then I could deal with truly wireless cameras. I don't see this becoming a reality in the next 20 years.

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Wifi would have to become much, much more reliable. We are already 20 years into the wifi era, and it still doesn't hold a candle to the stability of hardwire.