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In need of a good wireless router. advice please

Posted on 5/1/15 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 5:00 pm
I have suddenlink phone internet and cable bundled.
We also have Tivo with two mini TiVo stations that need signal from the wireless router supposedly.

We have a large floor plan and a very well insulated house that has proved difficult in the past to get signal to all of the rooms. We even have difficulty with getting cell reception in the house. I think part of that is due to the redundant and excessive wires in the attic. The house has had several security systems, cable wires, previously wired for sound with wall and ceiling speakers and all of those cables were just left and new ones run each time.

I need a wireless router that will have a strong enough broadcast to reach every room well. or possibly a wireless with relay antennae's? IDK? I'm not really tech savvy.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11174 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:27 pm to
Apple Airport Extreme. Pricey but a snap to set up and will get throughout your house.
If not, take it back.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:36 pm to
looks like it is a snap to set up if you have Apple or Mac products. I do not.
Posted by Casty McBoozer
your mom's fat arse
Member since Sep 2005
35495 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

We have a large floor plan and a very well insulated house that has proved difficult in the past to get signal to all of the rooms.

How is this a daily thread?

It doesn't matter how "strong" or "good" your "router" is.

If you have a lot of space to cover, you need multiple AP's throughout the house and you'll need to run cable to them.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

We have a large floor plan and a very well insulated house that has proved difficult in the past to get signal to all of the rooms
well you'll need a router plus access points throughout the house
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:49 pm to
Apparently it is a common issue that the IT world does a poor job of informing the consumer on. Thanks for the advice.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:11 pm to
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Apparently it is a common issue that the IT world does a poor job of informing the consumer on.


Probably because "Our router is just as good as anybody's" isn't as catchy of a sales pitch as "Blazing fast speeds and maximum distance!!!1" is.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45704 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36809 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Apparently it is a common issue that the IT world does a poor job of informing the consumer on. Thanks for the advice.
That's your response to a guy trying to help you?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:38 pm to
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redundant and excessive wires in the attic.



Bad news: if a router in a central location won't suffice, you're going to probably need more wires in the attic. If your current router is relatively new (4-5 years, wireless N), then it's not the problem- the space is! Now, if cable outlets are run throughout the house, a MoCa router/bridge will prevent you from needing to run more wires.

If you don't have coax run to areas where signals are weak, something like the Ubiquiti UniFi WAP is what you want. You place a small adapter near your current router, use 1 AC/wall plug there, then the ethernet cable leaving the small adapter will carry power to the actual Access Point (extender). The beauty here is that it only needs one cable, so the device can actually sit, unseen, in the attic. The bad is that you need a power outlet near the router + cable to the attic (or any other place you want to put an ethernet cable, but I'd imagine attic is most desirable)


The last option usually yields the worst results. It requires a router that's got a fair bit of throughput, because it cuts the available throughput in half. You basically have a device that "catches" and then "rebroadcasts" the wireless signal. My father uses a Netgear N600 router + wifi booster as explained above. Using a speed test, he gets 60mbps down on the main router. On the booster, he only gets 5mbps on his internet connection. I've never tested his local network actual throughput. It's much less reliable than a hardwire, so for TV watching (especially over wifi which is what it sounds like you'll be doing almost exclusively), the number of signal jumps and bandwidth may make it unusable/undesirable. But it may work for you. I've never tried, so I could very well be wrong. The options I've mentioned were done so from most--> least preferable if I were in your shoes. A MoCa bridge from your router through coax to a second MoCa adapter (either with wifi or with ethernet to be plugged into a new WAP) would be the way I would go.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36809 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:56 pm to
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Hopeful Doc
Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't have gone through that much in this post.

He needs wired AP(s) - the answers he got.

For this post, I recommend a series of extenders placed every 5 meters or so from each other. Easily 6 in the attic.

Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 12:06 am to
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He needs wired AP(s)



Agreed. He's got 3 solid methods of running them. For someone who seems to mention/complain of the wiring in his attic as excessive, piggy-backing on the coax could be a better option than running more wires, which he seems to be hesitant to do.
This post was edited on 5/2/15 at 12:07 am
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 5/2/15 at 11:35 pm to
well this is what I was thinking I needed. I will look a bit more into a system with AP. Likely will 9nly need two distant AP And the main hub to cover every thing.

Any suggestions on a good place to get gear at good prices on line?





ETA that wood router pictured above is a piece of platic crap and I wouldn't have it in my shop.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:47 am to
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Any suggestions on a good place to get gear at good prices on line?



On any given day, Amazon is as good a bet as anything. If you want used/refurb, they're close to the king there, too. If you want to wait for a major sale or take advantage of a rebate, check out TigerDirect or NewEgg. To take the easy route, a [link=(www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004XXMUCQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1430631931&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_QL40&keywords=Ubiquiti&dpPl=1&dpID=213yEwekUlL&ref=plSrch)]pair of these[/link] + almost any router will do.
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