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HD component cables vs HDMI

Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:25 pm
My parents are giving me a really nice 2 year old 52" LED TV that they're replacing. There is a problem with the HDMI in on the tv but component cables work just fine. I'm not a tech guy so I have no idea if they provide the same quality an HDMI cable would. If not, is it worth it to find out what's wrong and get it fixed? My roommates and I will mainly be using the tv for my XBone and movies so we want the best quality possible. Are components good for what I want to do?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:33 pm to
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Are components good for what I want to do?

hdmi is better b.c it has integrated digital audio.

does it not have multiple HDMI ins? Maybe try all of them. also try a new HDMI cables, cables do go bad
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27471 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:35 pm to
people will argue this, but you very likely will not notice a difference between the two, and if you have to run the cable for any distance over 6 or 9 feet, component may be a cheaper and better alternative.

Here is some reading to support me when people try to burn me at the stake.

Don't hate me.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:36 pm to
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hdmi is MORE CONVENIENT b.c it has integrated digital audio.


FIFY
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:40 pm to
Thanks guys I'll just stick with components
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:41 pm to
Do a google search on the model number and HDMI. You might find if it's a common problem and what others are doing about it. If it is a common problem, and it's a good manufacturer, they may do an out of warranty repair.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:42 pm to
Component and HDMI can produce similar/same quality, but there are often issues with copy protection. Some blu-ray players, for example, will not output 1080p with component cables, as a method of preventing someone from just recording the movie in HD to another analog device (think back to the days of hooking two VCRs together to copy a movie). You can't even buy a blu-ray player with with component anymore I don't believe.

Other than that it's just a matter of analog vs. digital. Ultimately, the signal has to be converted to analog before you see it on your TV. If you use HDMI, the TV is responsible for decoding the signal to analog, but if you use component, the video source (e.g., cable box) is the one decoding to analog. This shouldn't make a whole lot of difference unless the cable box is particularly shitty at doing this.

Both HDMI and component have the bandwidth for 1080p. If you're just watching cable (720P or 1080i), it doesn't matter anyway.

As for the audio differences, I'll defer that to someone with more refined ears. I've never noticed a difference between component, coaxial/optical, and HDMI.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:45 pm to
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My roommates and I will mainly be using the tv for my XBone and movies so we want the best quality possible. Are components good for what I want to do?

nope, while the component cables themselves are capable of delivering a good signal, due to copy protection/HDCP, most modern devices are going to have a crippled low-res output via component and can only output full resolution via HDMI. You probably would have to get an active converter box
but most TVs will only be able to accept 1080i via component, not 1080p.
Posted by busbeepbeep
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:49 pm to
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As for the audio differences, I'll defer that to someone with more refined ears. I've never noticed a difference between component, coaxial/optical, and HDMI.


no such thing as component audio. That would be just RCA plug/phono plug/ line level stereo audio that was the same as with composite or S-video connections.

Coaxial or optical digital audio can carry Dolby Digital, DD+, DTS encoded signals.

For uncompressed signals like Dolby True HD and DTS Master HD, you need an HDMI cable for the audio transfer
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:50 pm to
When charter installed for me originally they used components. I asked an audio/visual guy why that would be and he said for cable tv I'm getting the same result. I have never noticed any issues. Take all that fwiw.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 12:55 pm to
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no such thing as component audio. That would be just RCA plug/phono plug/ line level stereo audio that was the same as with composite or S-video connections.


Cool, didn't know if there was any inherent difference or not. Last time I messed with that was hooking component from Wii to TV 7 years ago.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:13 pm to
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if you have to run the cable for any distance over 6 or 9 feet, component may be a cheaper and better alternative.


My 28 AWG Monoprice HDMI cables are good at 15'. They cost about $6.50. I also have combined 16' length with a 10' Monoprice coupled to a much more bendable and ferrite core-less 6' AmazonBasics cable, which I think cost maybe $10 for a pair of them.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:37 pm to
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XBone


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component cables



Posted by Layabout
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:19 pm to
I'm pretty sure component can technically do 1080P, not just 1080i, with the only limitation being whether the source allows it or not.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 2:37 pm to
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I'm pretty sure component can technically do 1080P, not just 1080i, with the only limitation being whether the source allows it or not.



That is my understanding of it.


I wish my receiver had the ability to convert HDMI signal to Analog. My HDMI out port does not work, rendering probably the most important part of my receiver pretty useless.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9315 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:13 pm to
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XBone

component cables



Good luck

Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15319 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:34 pm to
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I'm pretty sure component can technically do 1080P, not just 1080i, with the only limitation being whether the source allows it or not.


This is correct. In fact they can handle a heck of a lot more than 1080p, but as you said, it is source controlled.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:41 pm to
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Good luck


I have an HDMI to component cable. That's not a hard problem to remedy.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 3:43 pm
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