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Electrical Engineers of the OT: Rocker switch to control LED lights question

Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:53 pm
I'm putting LED strip lights on my boat. One set of LED's on the deck for night fishing. The other set of LED's in my storage compartments. I purchased a rocker switch that is labeled ON-OFF-ON. It has 6 prongs (the switch doesn't light up).

I would like to wire the lights so:
-Position ON UP lights up the decks lights only
-Position OFF, obviously all lights are OFF
-Position ON DOWN, both sets of lights are on.

Is it possible with the switch I purchased? (It was the only one that matched the other rocker switches on my boat).


Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:55 pm to
Can you run the lights that you want always on to both the top and bottom positions, and the one you only want on sometimes to just one of the positions?
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
959 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:25 pm to
search the outdoor board, someone just had a question on led lights. and yes you can wire it the way you want. you may have to have some sort of jumper wire from the top position to the bottom position so they all come on at once.
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

you may have to have some sort of jumper wire from the top position to the bottom position so they all come on at once.


That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22623 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 4:13 pm to
If you run a jumper from top position to bottom, you will energize the jumper when you switch to either side. It will energize both no matter the position.
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

If you run a jumper from top position to bottom, you will energize the jumper when you switch to either side. It will energize both no matter the position.


Wouldn't that turn on both sets of lights in either ON position?

Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22623 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 4:37 pm to
Yes. I don't think you can do what you want without 2 switches.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 4:51 pm to
Looks like you need to incorporate a diode into the wiring. Something like this, but not sure if it is the correct direction.

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Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15497 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:20 pm to
nvm
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 6:50 pm
Posted by PurpleGoldTiger
Thibodaux, LA
Member since Mar 2010
4009 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 8:30 pm to
See below
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 6:53 am
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:50 pm to
See drawing below

Don't follow the drawing above. It's wrong
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 11:16 pm
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:13 pm to


5 amp fuse can probably work as well depending on how many strips you run. Figure a 4-5amp draw per 15ft of LED strip
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29971 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 7:40 am to
Trust cp3. He knows this stuff. It's within the scope of what he does for a living.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:21 am to
Now I need to figure out who you are
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29971 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:46 am to
We had this discussion on here some time back. We both do work in the control system realm, if I recall correctly. Don't think we know each other IRL, though.

I've been doing PLCs and industrial controls, mostly oilfield, since the early 90s. I've always felt like I ended up in a profession that was tailor made for me. If I recall correctly, you feel the same and have a similar timeline, though I don't know if it is oilfield or something else.

Every one of your posts I've seen regarding this type of stuff have been spot on.
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2008 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:59 am to
CP3's diagram is spot on! He's a freaking genius!
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22623 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:06 am to
Admittedly, I wasn't familiar with the internal wiring of the switch. My ignorance. So I looked it up. Not that he needs it, but I agree with CP3's diagram. That's your wiring.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21406 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:47 am to
Did the switch come with a circuit diagram? I can see that it might be possible if the switch is configured to allow it.

Maybe a brand and part number?
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:40 pm to

Different timeline. I graduated LSU in 2014.
This profession is definitely a good fit for me though. I love every second of it.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29971 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:06 pm to
OK, when you're old like I am, you confuse things like timelines

What did you graduate in? EE?

I'm actually an ME grad from USL (my first year was at LSU) back when they offered a Computer Aided Design/ Computer Aided Manufacturing option. I ended up working for an engineering company in 1990 that did controls for offshore platforms and surge control for turbine compressors. Always felt natural and was incredibly interesting. Been bumping around doing that ever since for a few different companies.

Good luck to you

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