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Chronos by Origin Gaming PC
Posted on 3/8/15 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 3/8/15 at 1:05 pm
Im looking to get my son a top end gaming PC and was wondering if anyone had experience with a company called origin. I'm looking at the Chronos which was a PC magazine Editors Choice winner.
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Posted on 3/8/15 at 1:36 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
I don't have direct experience with Origin, but their reputation is decent enough. The boutique-style PC builders like Puget Systems, Origin, and Falcon Northwest are generally several cuts above companies like Alienware, iBuyPower, etc. in terms of the quality of components used and their product knowledge. That said, they do tend to be a little pricier (for example, the $1200 Chronos is comprised of about $800 in parts if purchased individually online. What's your budget (just for the tower)?
The Chronos is not to be considered even close to a top-end gaming PC, by the way. The $1200 model is in fact very weak. The problem is, like many "gaming PC" builders, they skimp on the graphics card, which is by far the most important component for gaming performance. They use an underpowered GTX 750 Ti, which is quickly becoming low-end (it never was high-end). That's the problem with compact builds; while they're power-efficient, it's mostly out of necessity in order to avoid excess heat in such a confined space, and it comes at the sacrifice of performance. Truth be told, the APUs in current-generation consoles (Xbox one and PS4) are more powerful than the GPU in the Chronos.
If you lived in the BR area and are trying to get best bang for buck, I'd do a build for you for just the cost of parts. (Though I'm guessing based on your name that you do not live in BR) I enjoy doing high-end builds and never got to do them nearly often enough back when I did this stuff for money. $1200 can get you quite a high-end build if you are less insistent on the compact form factor.
The Chronos is not to be considered even close to a top-end gaming PC, by the way. The $1200 model is in fact very weak. The problem is, like many "gaming PC" builders, they skimp on the graphics card, which is by far the most important component for gaming performance. They use an underpowered GTX 750 Ti, which is quickly becoming low-end (it never was high-end). That's the problem with compact builds; while they're power-efficient, it's mostly out of necessity in order to avoid excess heat in such a confined space, and it comes at the sacrifice of performance. Truth be told, the APUs in current-generation consoles (Xbox one and PS4) are more powerful than the GPU in the Chronos.
If you lived in the BR area and are trying to get best bang for buck, I'd do a build for you for just the cost of parts. (Though I'm guessing based on your name that you do not live in BR) I enjoy doing high-end builds and never got to do them nearly often enough back when I did this stuff for money. $1200 can get you quite a high-end build if you are less insistent on the compact form factor.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 3/8/15 at 1:44 pm to ILikeLSUToo
What he said.
First off, I would drop the chronos. Unless space is a real issue which I doubt, you shouldn't go with those console style PCs.
Also as he said, you can buy parts for a MUCH nicer build than purchase. Especially from Origin. They are higher end so they charge higher end prices to build the machine. You do get a better looking rig inside the box because they know their stuff about water cooling and wire control.
First off, I would drop the chronos. Unless space is a real issue which I doubt, you shouldn't go with those console style PCs.
Also as he said, you can buy parts for a MUCH nicer build than purchase. Especially from Origin. They are higher end so they charge higher end prices to build the machine. You do get a better looking rig inside the box because they know their stuff about water cooling and wire control.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 3/8/15 at 2:37 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Thanks for the info. I just built one (did not buy) on their site with some upgraded options for 2300. That's probably about where Id want to be. I realize 'top end' was probably a poor choice of words. I have a disabled son, 17 about to finish high school. Gaming is his life and I want to get him something nice that will not be obsolete in a year.
Thanks.
ETA:
If you could provide me with a suggested parts list, maybe I could build it myself for less. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
ETA:
If you could provide me with a suggested parts list, maybe I could build it myself for less. Any help would be much appreciated.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 3/8/15 at 3:41 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
If 2300 is your budget, I could have a lot of fun with that. That is easily a top-end build (I mean, not TOP-end like the people who do quad-GPU setups and the like, but capable of running anything and everything for quite a long time).
This build doesn't include a monitor or OS. I'd recommend a 1440P panel, which will be around $300+.
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($130.97 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX200 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($532.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($532.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2266.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-08 16:09 EDT-0400
And to summarize the performance specs for you:
i7-4790K 4.0GHz with dual-radiator liquid cooling
16GB of RAM (DDR3-2133)
500GB SSD
2TB HDD
2 x (SLI) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980
I'd consider the above to be a "top-end" build by more than reasonable definitions. Now, if you want the monitor included in the budget, don't want to pirate Windows, don't care to deal with mail-in rebates, and want the convenience of just ordering the products from Newegg and Amazon (rather than the assortment of merchants), here's a more straight-forward $2300 part list:
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($337.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB (3.5 + 0.5) ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB (3.5 + 0.5) ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Other: QNIX QX2710 1440P Glossy Perfect Pixel Monitor (27") ($314.99)
Total: $2250.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-08 16:39 EDT-0400
Again, quick spec summary:
i7-4790K 4.0GHz with dual-radiator liquid cooling
16GB of RAM (DDR3-2133)
256GB SSD
2TB HDD
2 x (SLI) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
27" 2560x1440 (WQHD) monitor
MS Windows 8.1
Guaranteed that Origin or any other company cannot come close to this bang for buck.
This build doesn't include a monitor or OS. I'd recommend a 1440P panel, which will be around $300+.
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($130.97 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX200 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($532.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($532.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2266.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-08 16:09 EDT-0400
And to summarize the performance specs for you:
i7-4790K 4.0GHz with dual-radiator liquid cooling
16GB of RAM (DDR3-2133)
500GB SSD
2TB HDD
2 x (SLI) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980
I'd consider the above to be a "top-end" build by more than reasonable definitions. Now, if you want the monitor included in the budget, don't want to pirate Windows, don't care to deal with mail-in rebates, and want the convenience of just ordering the products from Newegg and Amazon (rather than the assortment of merchants), here's a more straight-forward $2300 part list:
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($337.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB (3.5 + 0.5) ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB (3.5 + 0.5) ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Other: QNIX QX2710 1440P Glossy Perfect Pixel Monitor (27") ($314.99)
Total: $2250.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-08 16:39 EDT-0400
Again, quick spec summary:
i7-4790K 4.0GHz with dual-radiator liquid cooling
16GB of RAM (DDR3-2133)
256GB SSD
2TB HDD
2 x (SLI) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
27" 2560x1440 (WQHD) monitor
MS Windows 8.1
Guaranteed that Origin or any other company cannot come close to this bang for buck.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/8/15 at 5:49 pm to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
ILikeLSUToo
Much appreciated!
I will update.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 7:45 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
All ordered. I had to get the motherboard from New Egg it was no longer available at Outlet PC. I bought Windows 8 from New Egg.
Hope this goes well. Thanks again.
Hope this goes well. Thanks again.
Posted on 3/8/15 at 7:56 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Sweet, you're going with the first list or second? Getting the QNIX monitor, right?
EDIT: If you have any problems with the build process, let me know. We can even Skype if need be.
EDIT: If you have any problems with the build process, let me know. We can even Skype if need be.
This post was edited on 3/8/15 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 3/8/15 at 11:22 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Since the 7200.10 debacle I haven't recommended Seagate. I have a couple 7200.10 1TBs that each failed. What's the word on them nowadays?
Posted on 3/9/15 at 12:04 am to TigerRagAndrew
Yeah, there are older, bad versions of those drives with lower platter density as well (I think you mean 7200.11 debacle, as those were the revisions with firmware issues and were most notorious for spontaneously shitting the bed), but your odds of getting one now are very low, especially from Amazon. It definitely ruined Seagate's reputation in the general consumer space, regardless of corrective actions they've taken. There is currently no reliable (read: trustworthy) source for failure rates among specific revisions of various brands and models. That said, I still buy Seagate drives because they pretty much always win in price. The safest bet is to simply treat all of your hard drives as if they were going to fail tonight. No data redundancy = you don't want that data tomorrow.
Right now, I have a "budget" backup scheme with my hard drives. A 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black (the older, 500GB platter version) holds all of my most important files -- family photos/videos and important documents and project files for various programs. I have a 3TB Seagate Barracuda that holds my torrented media. I have scheduled backups of my 1TB drive's data to my 3TB drive, and then my entire PC is regularly backed up on a schedule to an external 4TB Western Digital Red drive in a USB 3.0 enclosure. I'm going grab some old parts laying around here and buy some more hard drives to build a dedicated plex server/torrent box soon.
Right now, I have a "budget" backup scheme with my hard drives. A 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black (the older, 500GB platter version) holds all of my most important files -- family photos/videos and important documents and project files for various programs. I have a 3TB Seagate Barracuda that holds my torrented media. I have scheduled backups of my 1TB drive's data to my 3TB drive, and then my entire PC is regularly backed up on a schedule to an external 4TB Western Digital Red drive in a USB 3.0 enclosure. I'm going grab some old parts laying around here and buy some more hard drives to build a dedicated plex server/torrent box soon.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 7:23 pm to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
Sweet, you're going with the first list or second? Getting the QNIX monitor, right?
Using the first list. He has a monitor, so once its built, I will upgrade the monitor this summer. I want to get a dual monitor mount as well.
Thanks again. Just waiting on the parts.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 7:27 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Definitely make the monitor upgrade a priority. If he's just gaming on a 1080p panel, you're basically wasting 2/3 the value of the pc.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:40 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Waiting on one more box. Im a little fired up.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:30 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
First time builder?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:46 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Wow! You talked the poor guy into building. 
It can be a bit nerve wracking the first time.
It can be a bit nerve wracking the first time.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:09 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I built one back in 04. Been reading quite a few manuals today. lol
I really like this case.
I really like this case.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:44 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
The process hasn't changed much in 10 years. Fewer jumpers to move around on the board and more to play with in the bios. Screwdriver is still your number one tool. Should be a fun father/son task.
Mind if I ask what your son's disability is?
Mind if I ask what your son's disability is?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 5:38 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:
It can be a bit nerve wracking the first time
But when you power up for the first time with everything working.
Very gratifying experience.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:02 pm to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
Mind if I ask what your son's disability is?
Duchennes Muscular Dystrophy. Been in a chair since he was 10. He's right here with me though offering pointers. We had a time getting the radiator and fans mounted. Had to use the top and had to mount them to one side, not in the middle. This is to allow clearance for the ports on the MB. I'm getting it. Hopefully that was the hardest part.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:22 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
quote:
. Had to use the top and had to mount them to one side, not in the middle. This is to allow clearance for the ports on the MB.
Not sure what you mean here. Post a pic when you get a chance.
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