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are their legitimate uses for accessing the deep web?

Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:36 pm
So we offered a person a job recently and in the interview process she had to do some tech work for us, and demo'd it off her laptop.

And she had a link to Tor on her browser.

after we offered her the job, in a meet and greet I asked what she used Tor for, thinking it was for drugs. She said it was for getting a torrent for an obscure movie. I have not heard of torrent sites in the deep web. Plus the risk with torrents is not grabbing the torrent but instead someone grabbing your IP address when leaching.

What says the tech board? Did we just hire a degenerate drug addict?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:39 pm to
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What says the tech board?


I think you don't understand Tor
Posted by Coast Tiger
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:40 pm to
*there
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:42 pm to
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I think you don't understand Tor


I fully understand Tor.

I think the person was either lying to me about why they were using Tor OR foolishly thinks that Tor is going to protect them in this scenario
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 1:43 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:43 pm to
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I fully understand Tor.



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I have not heard of torrent sites in the deep web


You're missing the point...

TOR is not the gateway to the deep web, it's just another browser
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:47 pm to
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TOR is not the gateway to the deep web, it's just another browser


You can access main stream sites, but it will offer near zero protection when torrenting, as your torrent activity is going to not going to be protected in any way shape or form.
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:48 pm to
this thead again...yay
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:50 pm to
The Tor network disguises your identity by moving your traffic across different Tor servers, and encrypting that traffic so it isn't traced back to you. Anyone who tries would see traffic coming from random nodes on the Tor network, rather than your computer.

ETA: Don't hire this person, they're obviously going to have your job shortly..
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:55 pm to
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ETA: Don't hire this person, they're obviously going to have your job shortly..


Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:13 pm to
This thread hurts my head.
Posted by gmrkr5
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:27 pm to
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after we offered her the job, in a meet and greet I asked what she used Tor for, thinking it was for drugs. She said it was for getting a torrent for an obscure movie. I have not heard of torrent sites in the deep web. Plus the risk with torrents is not grabbing the torrent but instead someone grabbing your IP address when leaching.


admitting to pirating copyrighted material to your brand new employer...nice
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by The 25 Jersey
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:28 pm to
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And she had a link to Tor on her browser.

after we offered her the job, in a meet and greet I asked what she used Tor for, thinking it was for drugs


Do you usually hire people you suspect of drug use?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:33 pm to
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admitting to pirating copyrighted material to your brand new employer...nice
LINK
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:39 pm to
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The Tor network disguises your identity by moving your traffic across different Tor servers, and encrypting that traffic so it isn't traced back to you. Anyone who tries would see traffic coming from random nodes on the Tor network, rather than your computer.


I think the point he's trying to make is that the Tor browser alone will not hide your IP when actually downloading the file and seeding. You'd have to configure your torrent client to connect to the Tor network. Not to say she isn't getting the torrent file from a ".onion" site and using the Tor network in her torrent client, but it is indeed a pretty odd and inefficient way of hiding your torrent activity. There's just not enough capacity on the network to support torrenting. A paid VPN is the best method, but even free Tor-like substitutes are better than Tor, such as I2P which has its own clients and trackers.

Tor is primarily used for anonymity on the web. She could be buying drugs or guns or counterfeit bills or kiddie porn, trolling random forums, swatting, hanging out with her hacker buddies, reading wikileaks, planning a terrorist attack, paranoidly protecting her identity while doing general browsing, or yes, weirdly and inefficiently using it for torrenting for lack of knowledge of a better solution., among other things.

In my opinion, what she's using it for is not really your business and not a reason to not hire her. That said, it's odd that she'd admit to copyright infringement during a job interview (and even then, she's not necessarily doing that since torrenting doesn't necessarily imply downloading copyrighted content), and sometimes people admit to lesser offenses to detract from their actual, more severe offense. But still, you and I have no idea. If she's the most qualified candidate and you'd otherwise hire her if it weren't for the Tor thing, I'd hire her. If she does good work, good. Maybe she buys pot on darknet markets. If your company doesn't piss test, and she shows no visible signs of drug use or decline in performance, then you have no idea.

I guess I'm just trying to say that using Tor for torrenting is weird, and she's either uninformed of superior alternatives or lying, but it doesn't affect her qualifications.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 2:40 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:41 pm to
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it's odd that she'd admit to copyright infringement


She may not have, as pointed out by someone already..
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:46 pm to
Yeah, I edited to clarify that. I'm guilty of assuming torrenting = infringement because that's pretty much why I use it.
Posted by gmrkr5
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:47 pm to
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LINK


so tell me which one of those she downloaded?

i'm waiting..

why the shite would you use Tor to download something that is perfectly legal to download? right...

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I guess I'm just trying to say that using Tor for torrenting is weird, and she's either uninformed of superior alternatives or lying, but it doesn't affect her qualifications.



this^^
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:54 pm to
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The Tor network disguises your identity by moving your traffic across different Tor servers, and encrypting that traffic so it isn't traced back to you. Anyone who tries would see traffic coming from random nodes on the Tor network, rather than your computer.

yeah, but there is NO value to TOR when torrenting. It makes zero sense to me at least.

And she implied that she was accessing deep web torrent sites, which being a part to the torrenting community and occasionally accessing the deep web, I have never heard of.

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admitting to pirating copyrighted material to your brand new employer...nice

Yeah, I don't really care. I torrent, granted no one at work knows I do it outside my close work friends.

She had an explanation, and what movie it was and how its not available in stores.
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Do you usually hire people you suspect of drug use?

honestly I would say 1/3 of the non-asians at my work use drugs on a regular basis. Some of the asians do too. I bring marijuana candy to conferences and usually they are greeted enthusiastically. We are doing a group event in amsterdam in June and at work people openly planned to go to coffee shops. No one seemed to care.

Software company FTW.
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I guess I'm just trying to say that using Tor for torrenting is weird, and she's either uninformed of superior alternatives or lying, but it doesn't affect her qualifications.

exactly

This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:42 pm to
How does drugs come up when talking about internet? My brain hurts.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:46 pm to
Wow are you serious old man?

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This thread hurts my head.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 3:47 pm
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