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Android 5.1 (UPDATE: Was Just Pushed To Nexus 5)

Posted on 3/12/15 at 1:48 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 1:48 pm
Who has it? According to reddit /r/android it feels like an entirely new phone (nexus 5 & 6)

edit: scooped up the updated 5.1 last night, so far it does seem smoother and still incredibly fast (time will tell w the battery)
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 8:50 am
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9323 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

it feels like an entirely new phone (nexus 5 & 6)


I hope so..5.0 killed my S5 (don't tell sabi)
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 1:55 pm to
I haven't been too impressed with 5 either (battery/memory leak).
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7384 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 2:07 pm to
I'm happy with 5.0 on my N6, but it's not super smooth on my little boy's N7.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77945 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:23 pm to
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Android 5.1
I haven't been too impressed with 5 either (battery/memory leak).


and the horrible gps lost issue

waze and maps are both dead to me until they can get the wifi/3g/gps shite working correctly again.

gps crashes every 45 seconds or so in lollipop making it just about useless on my N5.
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
18303 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:50 pm to
I'm still running kitkat on my N5, but looking to upgrade to 5.1 soon if reports continue to be positive.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 4:33 pm to
Should be merged into roms within a few days.
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7384 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 4:54 pm to
What are you running these days? I tried LiquidSmooth for a little bit, but it was a little too buggy. I've been really happy with Chroma for the last couple of weeks.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:25 pm to
Tried LiquidSmooth, Rastapop, Elix-R, Terminus, and Chroma. I keep going back to Terminus + Franco.

Speaking of Franco, he posted an explanation of why 5.1 feels smoother to stock users:

quote:

In case you're wondering why your Nexus 6 feels so darn fast and smooth on Android 5.1, besides all the improvements on ART and possibly a lot of code cleaning and optimizations on the Framework - the device is now running full quad-core mode all the time which helps tremendously because the Kernel task scheduler can distribute the workload through all these cores so you'll get the perception that the device is not hanging anymore.

They also disabled the built-in thread migration boost routines - if you don't know what this is about it's a driver made by Qualcomm that receives a notifier from the task scheduler when one thread migrated from one cpu core to another, and to minimize perceived lag it boosted the destination core to the same, or greated, frequency than the origin core:

1 - thread moves from cpu0 to cpu2
2 - driver is notified
3 - reads the current cpu0 frequency
4 - if cpu2 current frequency is less than cpu0's read frequency it boosts cpu2 to that freq, or, if the origin freq is lower than the threshold (which is 1.7GHz by default AFAIK) it boosts to that threshold value.
5 - the boosted frequency on cpu2 stays there for at least 20ms

These migrations can occur dozens of times per-second. One of the things that I did on FK was disabling all this to conserve battery (and we don't really need all that boosting with this chip).
I'm sure Google did the math and a lot of power measurements and found out that the gains outgain the losses, so they disabled this, and I applaud them.

So these two changes balance themselves out, and I can imagine that 100% stock users will be pleasantly surprised by the improved battery life.

Unfortunately we're still dealing with full 3 second cpu boost on touch events... we don't need long of a boost, specially at 1.5GHz... Comon Google.

I don't know what other improvements they did on the Kernel, the source is not up yet, this is all I know for now.?
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 6:39 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:20 pm to
I too have been running Chroma for weeks now, best one out there IMO. Franco App with latest Franco kernel and proper settings and it's buttery smooth.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8466 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 8:45 pm to
Flashed 5.1 factory image this morning when it posted. So far it's been fantastic. Even though I didn't have any problems with 5.01 I am really enjoying 5.1 so far.

I would suggest anyone with the capability to get 5.1 to do it as you won't be disappointed. Unless you REALLY NEED Xposed, then you will have to wait. I love Xposed but will do without until it gets updated to work with 5.1.

Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 5:50 pm to
When's this shite dropping for nexus 5? My phone sucks since the last update so feeling like an entirely new phone would be nice.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 6:30 pm to
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I hope so..5.0 killed my S5 (don't tell sabi)


AHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110660 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

I would suggest anyone with the capability to get 5.1 to do it as you won't be disappointed
I just got a Nexus 6, couple of questions?

1. How do I manually get it? I downloaded it from a link, but when I click on the download it says "can't open file", so I'm not sure where to go from there.

2. If I don't do it manually, will it eventually automatically be available for my phone? I assume yes, but the next question would be when would that take place?
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6283 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 11:45 pm to
How to install lollipop 5.1 pretty straight forward.

Performance is incredible on 5.1 and it will be a few days wait if you prefer to wait for the over the air roll out.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:16 pm to
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I tried LiquidSmooth for a little bit, but it was a little too buggy.


Do you have much experience with Liquid? That was my go to ROM while on my OG Droid. Haven't used it since switching to my Droid 4.

Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7384 posts
Posted on 3/15/15 at 4:34 pm to
Not a ton. I used it for about a week. It had a ton of features, just too many apps crashing for my taste.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:38 pm to
I flashed it last night, and like everyone has been saying, the phone flies. I used to have a bit of lag when I pressed the recents button, but not anymore.

I did have some trouble flashing it, though, probably because I was doing it on Linux. I tried doing the "manual" update so I wouldn't lose my data, where you flash each partition individually. Everything worked fine except for the system.img, which kept telling me that the data size exceeds download buffer. I also tried to sideload the OTA file, and it kept crapping out at about 50%. I finally resorted to putting Wug's NRT on my wife's laptop, which gave me the same error initially until I checked the force flash option. That broke the system.img down into "sparse" chunks and it was able to flash it.

Turns out all I had to do was use fastboot's -S option on Linux, but everybody who reported the error I had always got the same answer: just use Wug's toolkit. Seems like the damned command line tool should default to sending large images in smaller chunks if it gets that error.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108733 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

I hope so..5.0 killed my S5


quote:

I haven't been too impressed with 5 either (battery/memory leak).


When I upgraded to 5.0 my battery life went to shite. I found that turning off Wifi would help a little. I also had another common problem where I'd constantly get the "Contacts has stopped unexpectedly" popup.

I ended up having to save everything and do a factory reset of my phone. Now it works fine and my battery drain is gone.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 6:01 pm to
thx for the review

youre currently the GOAT tech board poster imo
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