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Your Replacements For Wood, Bedoya, & Jones versus Klinsmann's Replacements
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:23 pm
Who would you play in place of Wood, Bedoya, & Jones and who do you think Klinsmann will play?
Me: Zardes for Wood, Pulisic for Bedoya, Nagbe for Jones, Zusi for Zardes.
Klinsmann: Wondolowski for Wood, Zusi for Bedoya, Beckerman for Jones
I think Klinsmann will want Bradley to play more forward and Beckerman to sit back.
Me: Zardes for Wood, Pulisic for Bedoya, Nagbe for Jones, Zusi for Zardes.
Klinsmann: Wondolowski for Wood, Zusi for Bedoya, Beckerman for Jones
I think Klinsmann will want Bradley to play more forward and Beckerman to sit back.
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:26 pm to John Keating
Depends on the formation.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:30 pm to pvilleguru
Very well, if you want feel free to offer your formation v what you think will be Klinsmann's formation.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:45 pm to John Keating
Going to be tough for me to give Pulisic the call for Argentina in a semi-final match. I don't think he's ready for that.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:48 pm to tsmi136
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Going to be tough for me to give Pulisic the call for Argentina in a semi-final match. I don't think he's ready for tha
He played in the revierderby in a tie game in the midst of a title race
He's a different breed of cat
Fully expect he won't play- but it's not due to lack of talent, mentality, or preparedness. Jurgen understandably doesn't trust him enough yet. He's one of 2 or 3 guys in our entire pool that can give any defense fits, including the argentines
I think we're going to hold our own defensively for 75 minutes or so and then the dam will start to crack. When you can bring Sergio Aguero and Lavezzi off the bench, it's not really fair. To win, it's going to be important for us to create chances and score goals while we have the legs and stamina to defend with discipline. His intelligence and movement on the counter could provide that. He plays for arguably the best counter attacking side on the planet
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/17/16 at 4:05 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
By no means ideal, especially with Deuce playing up top by himself, but I think this would be our best bet with Pulisic and Zusi coming on as second half subs.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 4:06 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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score goals while we have the legs and stamina to defend with discipline.
this all day. We have to score early.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 4:20 pm to Broski
Wouldn't it be more preferable to Johnson on Left giving more help to Besler and Zardes on the right? I'm not really familiar with Argentinas lineup though.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 4:22 pm to fightingtigers98
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Wouldn't it be more preferable to Johnson on Left giving more help to Besler
Yedlin would need more help defensively than Besler. Either way, you have two high-workrate guys on the wing.
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 6/17/16 at 7:26 pm to Broski
Our poor left side... Zardes and Besler would get murder-lized.
Posted on 6/17/16 at 7:42 pm to CoeJ
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Zardes and Besler would get murder-lized.
How so?
And what would be the better option?
Posted on 6/17/16 at 8:13 pm to CoeJ
Both players have high defensive work rates and defend well. Both are fast. I don't see it as that bad.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 4:48 pm to Shane4689
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We have to score early.
depending on Jurgen's lineup it might not just be early, we 100% have to score first or were toast
Posted on 6/18/16 at 5:26 pm to John Keating
How tough of a defender is Nagbe?
I've only seen him in a few really stretched out MLS matches and against weaker teams for the US.
It worries me that the US is missing both Jones, the true ball hawking presence in midfield and Bedoya who also works his arse off defensively.
I would say the best formation would be a compact 4-4-2 and Dempsey (and I suppose Yedlin as I don't think he's that good of a defensive FB) being the only choice(s) in the lineup where you put attacking talent over defensive chops/ intelligence /work rate.
If the backline is going to be
Yedlin - Cameron - Brooks - Besler
(Besler over Johnson here since he's probably a better defender and Fabian is an upgrade over anyone else to move up to wide midfield)
Then the likely central mids are:
Bradley + Beckerman
(Beckerman is no worldbeater but he's the best DM available without toying with the CB pairing and I just don't think you can play a more attacking minded midfielder in that spot against Argentina).
The two wider midfielders will be doing a lot of defending so Johnson (if Besler is fullback) plus whoever out of Zusi / Nagbe you feel is the better defender.
Probably a tough call since Nagbe seems to offer a lot more creative spark in actually playing the ball out to start counters. However, my guess is that JK thinks Zusi is the much safer option carrying out the defensive game plan.
Up top: Dempsey + Zardes
It's really a tough match for Dempsey since you really want the top two forwards to press the ball but there's no way Dempsey doesn't play since there's not even a Woods or Kevin Bacon as an option. Zardes is going need to run, run and then run some more to harass the deep lying playmakers and also not just be another defender watching long clearances go straight back to Argentina.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 6:23 pm to wm72
I agree with you. It is a very tough call.
Nagbe is faster than Beckerman, covers more ground, and gives you offense. He is highly technical in his skills. His defense is okay. Beckerman is the consistent stalwart that sits deep and helps as a safety valve for the backline. However, he is in his 30s and his speed was never an asset. He was run on and around by the faster teams in the Gold Cup and I have concerns with him at this level in the Copa. While he is more sound in terms of his defense, I think the US needs technically skilled, creative, fast players in midfield. I am counting on Nagbe to keep up and at least be an annoyance on defense and I am placing all my faith in the backline to play at optimum level with my selection. I prefer Nagbe going forward over Bradley and I think Bradley is best when playing deep, essentially taking the role that Beckerman would if he played.
However, I just look at Klinsmann's selections for this competition and in previous ones and it is clear that he favors Beckerman and Zusi. I expect them to play over Nagbe and Pulisic.
Jones and Bedoya are grinding fighters. Their presence will be missed. If our midfield is going to be Bradley and Beckerman that places enormous pressure on Bradley to do more offensively along with the wingers. Whoever is on the wings, be it Johnson, Zardes, Nagbe, Pulisic, Zusi) will have to do a lot along with Bradley for the US to have a chance.
Nagbe is faster than Beckerman, covers more ground, and gives you offense. He is highly technical in his skills. His defense is okay. Beckerman is the consistent stalwart that sits deep and helps as a safety valve for the backline. However, he is in his 30s and his speed was never an asset. He was run on and around by the faster teams in the Gold Cup and I have concerns with him at this level in the Copa. While he is more sound in terms of his defense, I think the US needs technically skilled, creative, fast players in midfield. I am counting on Nagbe to keep up and at least be an annoyance on defense and I am placing all my faith in the backline to play at optimum level with my selection. I prefer Nagbe going forward over Bradley and I think Bradley is best when playing deep, essentially taking the role that Beckerman would if he played.
However, I just look at Klinsmann's selections for this competition and in previous ones and it is clear that he favors Beckerman and Zusi. I expect them to play over Nagbe and Pulisic.
Jones and Bedoya are grinding fighters. Their presence will be missed. If our midfield is going to be Bradley and Beckerman that places enormous pressure on Bradley to do more offensively along with the wingers. Whoever is on the wings, be it Johnson, Zardes, Nagbe, Pulisic, Zusi) will have to do a lot along with Bradley for the US to have a chance.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 6:46 pm to wm72
If we stick with the 4-4-2, I don't want Beckerman on the field. Our offense would be non-existent.
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