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Dandy Lion
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back

2 fractures only take weeks to heal?


Sheep
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
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2 fractures only take weeks to heal?


If it's ribs, then it's possible.


Vicks Kennel Club
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
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Friedel is long gone, Marcus hasn't played regularly since Reading were relegated from the epl several years ago.

He played for Wolves not terribly long ago. I can always fap to bringing Wolverhampton players on to the USMNT.

Actually, probably not, since they all are fricking horrendous.


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Dandy Lion
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
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If it's ribs, then it's possible.
It's his back. That's why I'm amazed. Then again, it could be fifty one weeks.
This post was edited on 3/8 at 9:22 pm


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wm72
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
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Guzan has had an incredible season.


I was wondering how good he's been in general as I haven't seen most of Villa's matches but he's been simply superb in every match I have seen. So much so as to say as good as any keeper in the EPL just from my limited viewing perspective.

Him replacing Howard would be the least of my worries.


cwil177
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
I'm more worried about our shoddy back line and our lack of offensive production from the midfield.


LSUSOBEAST1
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
I would feel as confident with Guzan as Howard.


UASports23
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
Brad Guzan has had to deal with 148 shots on goal. 49 goals. 67.3%

Tim Howard has had to deal with 102 shots on goal. 34 goals. 67.3%


Just thought it was interesting.
This post was edited on 3/8 at 11:07 pm


Dandy Lion
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
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There has been 148 shots against Brad Guzan this year. 49 goals.


There has been 102 shots against Tim Howard this year. 34 goals.

Just thought it was interesting.

what would the good ole US of A be without stats?


cwil177
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
The USA is the only country that uses stats?

I think it's more impressive from Guzan, simply from the sheer number of shots he's had to face. Also, so many of his saves are finger tip/diving etc. Everton's D is better so I would imagine the shots Howard is facing, are, on average, further from the goal, weaker, etc.


Dandy Lion
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
Most stats are meaningless in soccer. Soccer is akin to horse racing. You must watch, observe, and take copious notes.


LSUSOBEAST1
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
Not really. There are tons of very effective metrics used. Passing %, passing amount, chances created, second assists, conversion %, shots on target %, save %, tackle win %, minute per loss of possession, minute per error, etc.

I love stats, but I hate when people use them to argue between which player is better than the other. Sometimes it can be effectively used, while others I'd just like to trust my eyes.


Jumbeauxlaya
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
I tend to agree that stats are a very small part of the picture of a player


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wm72
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
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There are tons of very effective metrics used. Passing %, passing amount, chances created, second assists, conversion %, shots on target %, save %, tackle win %, minute per loss of possession, minute per error, etc.



Which sites for stats do you prefer?

I like them too and agree that a lot of the ones you mention are interesting. My one complaint with a lot of stats is simply that they could be so much more sophisticated.


Stats like 2nd assists, chances created, successful through balls accentuate the effect of the type players I've always loved to watch. Actual finishes are seldom as impressive as those slightly-grazed back heals that start the dominoes' fall.

With others like chance conversion percentage, for example, I tend to think they often tell us more about the type chances a certain striker is getting than his quality. I suppose it's good remedy for the misconception that the strikers for your team always miss more chances than others.




SlowFlowPro
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
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Most stats are meaningless in soccer. Soccer is akin to horse racing. You must watch, observe, and take copious notes.

everything can be broken down into objective evidence. it's just finding the right evidence that translates to success


LSUSOBEAST1
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
I use EPLindex. It's extremely comprehensive for the Prem.

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With others like chance conversion percentage, for example, I tend to think they often tell us more about the type chances a certain striker is getting than his quality. I suppose it's good remedy for the misconception that the strikers for your team always miss more chances than others.


They have additional stats to accompany those. Clear-cut chance conversion % being one of them.

I also like graphics. Heat maps are very interesting. As are shot placement graphics. Really shows the tendencies of a player and how good their shooting ability is.


TFTC
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
bradley h friedel ?@friedel_b
GK situation US: YOU ARE IN GREAT HANDS WITH GUZAN!!!! If he was also hurt of course I would consider helping until Tim and Brad were fit!!


LSUSOBEAST1
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Leauxgan
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
always knew Howard the Duck was a little baby back bitch

not like José de Jesús Corona


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Broski
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Member since Jun 2011
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re: Tim Howard out several weeks with 2 fractures in back
That tweet makes me happy, because it shows that Friedel still remembers that he is American.


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