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Someone had to say it.. and it was Baby Bradley MLS strike looming
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:34 am
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:34 am
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and the league thinks
ughhh.
MLS needs to just let clubs operate on their own.
No more Lampard saga
no more up in arms a fringe Juve player is going to make 7 mil a year
No more making up allocation rules
etc, etc etcccc
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Michael Bradley has made one of the strongest statements yet from any player when it comes to the current collective bargaining negotiations between MLS and the MLS Players Union.
Speaking to ESPNFC.com at the annual MLS Media Day, the Toronto FC midfielder said free agency is "absolutely" an issue worth going on strike over, though he emphasized he remained hopeful a work stoppage wouldn't be necessary.
"The goal is to find a new agreement, one that works for the league and one that works for the players," he said. "Nobody is sitting here right now saying to themselves, 'We want a work stoppage.' That's not the end goal for anybody."
But he added that the union membership is firm in its belief that changes need to be made. The union has been very public with its intention to seek greater freedom of movement for its players, and higher salaries, especially for the rank and file.
and the league thinks
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MLS has long contended that free agency would undermine its ability to compete on the international player market, and thus compromise the cost certainty and single entity structure that it says has been the foundation of the league.
ughhh.
MLS needs to just let clubs operate on their own.
No more Lampard saga
no more up in arms a fringe Juve player is going to make 7 mil a year
No more making up allocation rules
etc, etc etcccc
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 10:16 am
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:36 am to StraightCashHomey21
Bradley can afford to strike, but some like... Connor Lade can't. They don't have the rank and file wealthy enough to strike.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:40 am to EastNastySwag
I honestly think the MLS is starting to play with fire.
The system worked when it was a league off on its own. But now that its is starting to show up and grabbing attention here or there around the world. The structure it has that worked to establish the league are now becoming its flaws.
I really hope they don't strike. It would set the league back and make it look very bad.
In Europe you have players at clubs sometimes throw fits but not the entire league.
The system worked when it was a league off on its own. But now that its is starting to show up and grabbing attention here or there around the world. The structure it has that worked to establish the league are now becoming its flaws.
I really hope they don't strike. It would set the league back and make it look very bad.
In Europe you have players at clubs sometimes throw fits but not the entire league.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:44 am to StraightCashHomey21
Im not sure how the league works but why not let the league pay for the players( pay the transfer fee and a bounus/lump sum) then have a free agency type systems for the teams buying from the league where they pay only the salary?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:47 am to StraightCashHomey21
It is getting to a point where something has to give. You can't be a Richard Eckersley making 87k in Toronto, while Giovinco gets 7m, and listen to MLS say we can't afford a significant increase. It just doesn't sit well with the rank and file. I get they are trying to avoid NASL, Cosmos, etc. redux, but there has to be some sort of free agency involved without collapsing the league.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:50 am to MLSter
The league owns and pays the players within the CBA framework. They pay the transfer fees. What they allow clubs to subsidize are Designated player. It counts 350k toward the cap, but the club is responsible for that player's salary, not the league.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:53 am to MLSter
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Im not sure how the league works but why not let the league pay for the players( pay the transfer fee and a bounus/lump sum) then have a free agency type systems for the teams buying from the league where they pay only the salary?
Its basically the only major league in the world working under the franchise system.
When the league owns all the contracts and then does the negotiating it can limit what a club wants to do. It also makes it a pain for clubs in other countries to do deal with the MLS b/c its not very easy.
One of the biggest rip offs was the Yedlin sale. The MLS got almost all the transfer and gave some to the Sounders b/c he was a home talent. That's total bullshite if a player comes through your academy and gets sold and you only get a small fraction on the profits.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:56 am to EastNastySwag
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The league owns and pays the players within the CBA framework. They pay the transfer fees. What they allow clubs to subsidize are Designated player. It counts 350k toward the cap, but the club is responsible for that player's salary, not the league.
I think Bradley is letting his Euro experience come out. He is 100% in all this.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:00 am to StraightCashHomey21
They are basically using a hybrid framework from the NFL. It is socialistic as hell and it attempts to ensure all clubs can be operational year in and year out. Without significant TV revenue, they have to slowly implement the changes. You can't just go straight to unrestricted FA and just watch MLS just flounder in 2 years. The balance is necessary, but they have to also make sure the players are getting a piece of the pie.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:05 am to EastNastySwag
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They are basically using a hybrid framework from the NFL. It is socialistic as hell and it attempts to ensure all clubs can be operational year in and year out
Thats why I said they are playing with fire. But not all the MLS clubs make profit. I'm pretty sure 5 or 6 operate at a loss.
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Without significant TV revenue, they have to slowly implement the changes.
Thats not going to happen anytime soon to make the league a top 5 by 2022
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You can't just go straight to unrestricted FA and just watch MLS just flounder in 2 years. The balance is necessary, but they have to also make sure the players are getting a piece of the pie.
But this isn't the Cosmo days. The league does have a much better foundation and investment. The more ownership groups like TFC's the better
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:05 am to EastNastySwag
I just want to see MLS flourish and I agree the salaries for the rank and file are a pittance. We will get there if the owners and players are somewhat on the same page about future growth. That part is getting trickier when you are paying Jozy, Giovinco, and Bradley approx. 18m total and yet the rest of your team are living paycheck to paycheck. I'd bet they double the cap for this upcoming CBA. We are talking $2 m extra. 100k more per player. You can't tell me if you are TFC you can't afford this when you 18 mil tied up on 3 players.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:06 am to EastNastySwag
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You can't tell me if you are TFC you can't afford this when you 18 mil tied up on 3 players.
They could for sure
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:27 am to StraightCashHomey21
If they strike, the league is dead.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:51 am to TN Bhoy
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If they strike, the league is dead.
Hopefully cooler heads prevail
if a strike happens an exodus of players would happen
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:51 am to StraightCashHomey21
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One of the biggest rip offs was the Yedlin sale. The MLS got almost all the transfer and gave some to the Sounders b/c he was a home talent. That's total bullshite if a player comes through your academy and gets sold and you only get a small fraction on the profits.
Thats false
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Reports on the transfer fee have ranged between $3.5m-$4m and the Sounders will get 75 percent of that due to Yedlin's Homegrown Player status. Of that 75 percent, $650,000 can be converted into allocation money. The rest? Let's allow Hanauer to explain:
"It provides us with some cash to reinvest in any aspect of our soccer business that we want, whether that’s in our youth side that allows us to develop two or three or four more DeAndre Yedlins or Designated Players or other soccer facilities and infrastructure that will put us in a strong position going forward."
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The Dynamo also got 60 percent of the transfer fee for Geoff Cameron with 250k of it becoming allocation money which the team used part of to bring back Ricardo Clark.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:10 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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if a strike happens an exodus of players would happen
That is one thing I have to give Landycakes credit for in the last CBA go around. They damn near struck and he basically told all the players you will ultimately kill the league if we do this and in a roundabout way told them most won't of them wont even sniff a foreign offer.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:58 pm to Moleman
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Thats false
yea your right
i totally brain farted
what i meant to say is they can't even use all the money on players
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:09 pm to EastNastySwag
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most won't of them wont even sniff a foreign offer.
This is the IFHSS´s fault
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:15 pm to Dandy Lion
You seem to love the IFFHS rankings. Just wait til Italy overtakes Spain.....
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:16 pm to EastNastySwag
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Just wait til Italy overtakes Spain.....
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