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re: NASL, NPSL teams file with CAS to introduce pro/rel in U.S. soccer

Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:40 pm to
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But there are several teams who show zero desire to actually get better.


I disagree with this statement. Which teams do you feel show zero desire to get better?
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:43 pm to
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But there are several teams who show zero desire to actually get better.

Blatantly? Name them. There's a difference between front office incompetence and doing nothing on purpose.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125390 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:58 pm to
Id say New England for the most part, other than that year they made the final out of no where.
Posted by okietiger13
From Sea to Shining Sea
Member since Jan 2007
10271 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:11 pm to
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As we discussed on yesterday's show, Miami FC and Kingston Stockade FC have filed a request for arbitration to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, asking FIFA to apply its statutes to US Soccer and force a switch to a pro/rel system. We called up Dennis Crowley, the owner of the Stockade, to get his thoughts on the pending request. We discuss the filing, the best and worst case scenarios, what a Pro/Rel system might look like, and the work that went into starting a club from the ground up.


Total Soccer Show had Dennis Crowley, the owner of Kingston Stockade on today. I thought he did a really good job of explaining why he took this step and what he hopes to accomplish.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:57 pm to
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MLS would leave FIFA before giving in.


Then no MLS players could play for their countries. US Soccer would implode and MLS with it if they left FIFA
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14509 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 8:09 pm to
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I disagree with this statement. Which teams do you feel show zero desire to get better?

Feel that RSL, DCU, SJ, Philly, and NE are more than happy at being pretty terrible recently with no real effort to improve. Their biggest signings are either rejects or budget buys. Minnesota should probably be in here, but it's their first year in MLS, so I don't know if you can be too harsh on them.

Houston fit this mold last year, but with their new owner, they've finally gotten a little aggressive (even if it's a product of luck rather than commitment to success). Chicago until this year (where they finally decided to spend some money) was just horrific for several years.

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Blatantly? Name them. There's a difference between front office incompetence and doing nothing on purpose.

This can definitely be very blurred. Teams are able to be bad for a few years, spend little to nothing until they get enough pressure from fans and media to actually spend some money. Sure, there are cases where they try but things just go wrong for a while (like Colorado this year). I don't think that's the norm.

I guess I shouldn't that critical when every league has teams that are happy to stay in the bottom part of the table every year.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
33997 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 8:39 pm to
The MLS is garbage. With the exception of a handful of players, their product is no better than the NPSL or USL. It is why the core of our International squad is comprised of European based players or those that once played in Europe. Promotion and relegation may be the only thing to give the league a shred of credibility.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 8:45 pm to
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RSL
They have a good academy coming along. 4 of their players were on our U20 WC team. 3 of those players are starting for RSL, 1 is a frequent sub.
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DCU
Building a new stadium
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SJ

Built a stadium 2 years ago. Just signed a 3rd DP.
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Philly
I got nothing.
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NE
I think they've tried a few things, but they just haven't worked out.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 9:06 pm to
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The MLS is garbage.

*An

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With the exception of a handful of players, their product is no better than the NPSL or USL.

How big is this hand?

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It is why the core of our International squad is comprised of European based players or those that once played in Europe.

Excellent hedge.

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Promotion and relegation may be the only thing to give the league a shred of credibility.

"Their product is trash, so let's make sure they have to swap teams out every season with ones from smaller, poorer leagues." Brilliant logic.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31060 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 9:10 pm to
Your last point is brilliant. Honestly, it shuts the door on anyone saying the quality is poor. If the quality is poor, why bring in teams with no budget, tiny facilities, etc?

For every Cincinnati, there are gen lower level sides with minimal support. How in the world would a team be supported when a city like Shreveport got promoted?
Posted by okietiger13
From Sea to Shining Sea
Member since Jan 2007
10271 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 9:57 pm to
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How in the world would a team be supported when a city like Shreveport got promoted?

We had 2400 in attendance at the home finale this year. Impressive for NPSL in my opinion.
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