Hoffenheim had a pretty amazing climb to the top. 5 division in 8 years. the bundesliga reserve teams don't even play in the 5th division. that's hardly even a pro club to be honest, i can't imagine more than 200 people showed up the whole season before ol boy dietmar invested
what is the deal with the Ultra culture in Germany? It seems kind of like everyone is a damn Ultra surely there has to be something deeper than just getting drunk and raising hell, right? is there a class stigma to it? like only lower middle to lower class or is it a diverse group?