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re: Man City's "out of control spending" is a myth
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:46 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:46 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Haha no. These are businessmen. They only care about money and a return on that investment. I highly doubt these guys would drop as much money as they are without feeling like it'll translate into success.
Well okay but at least then it's the owners decision to make and you're protecting the club at the same time. That's my biggest problem with this whole thing. This is a very american way of thinking I'm sure but i don't like the idea that if i were suddenly worth $20 billion and went and bought Newcastle, that I would then be told what I was and wasn't allowed to do in terms of spending my own money to improve the team. Whether I spend it smartly or not is my business.
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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but at least then it's the owners decision to make and you're protecting the club at the same time.
I totally agree. If an owner agreed to cover unforeseen losses that happened as a result of leaving I'd be fine with it.
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This is a very american way of thinking I'm sure but i don't like the idea that if i were suddenly worth $20 billion and went and bought Newcastle, that I would then be told what I was and wasn't allowed to do in terms of spending my own money to improve the team. Whether I spend it smartly or not is my business.
You wouldn't though. American sports use salary caps. The NFL would regulate the hell out of what you spent. It is actually a very un-American thing to be able to spend what you want.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:56 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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You wouldn't though. American sports use salary caps.
At least then it's the same restrictions for all teams.
I don't like salary caps either, or the draft. That's a different discussion though.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 5:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Manchester City players firmly believe the club will make an offer for Cristiano Ronaldo, according to Graham Hunter.
The Real Madrid star's future has been ferociously debated over recent months, coinciding with his drop in performances for Carlo Ancelotti's side.
And speaking on Revista de La Liga, Hunter says his future is still not certain, but admits the decision will always lie with the player rather than the selling club.
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"I know that the players at Manchester City were talking very, very firmly that they believed there was a successful move coming from that club over the last couple of weeks," said Hunter.
"Whether that makes it true or not, I wouldn't like to say.
"What we know is the mega clubs, with petrodollars, there's never been a better time to say: 'Well, would you like to cash in on your chips?
yup sure looks like they are changing their mentality
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 8:21 am
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:21 am to StraightCashHomey21
Really? 
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Really
Perfect timing for that article to drop
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:36 am to StraightCashHomey21
I highly doubt Ronaldo would join them.
Despite his reputation, he still comes across as a pretty loyal dude to ManU. He's really matured over the years and left in about the classiest manner he possibly could.
If Mancs can pay Rooney what they're paying him, they'll certainly splash enough to get Ronaldo back in their shirt, although hard to say if they'd pay what Real would want for him.
Despite his reputation, he still comes across as a pretty loyal dude to ManU. He's really matured over the years and left in about the classiest manner he possibly could.
If Mancs can pay Rooney what they're paying him, they'll certainly splash enough to get Ronaldo back in their shirt, although hard to say if they'd pay what Real would want for him.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:48 am to STLhog
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I highly doubt Ronaldo would join them.
same here but this shows City isn't changing their mentality
they think they can just keep throwing money at everything.
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Despite his reputation, he still comes across as a pretty loyal dude to ManU. He's really matured over the years and left in about the classiest manner he possibly could.
Totally agree he won't come back to england unless its United. The shite storm if he joined city would be insane.
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If Mancs can pay Rooney what they're paying him, they'll certainly splash enough to get Ronaldo back in their shirt, although hard to say if they'd pay what Real would want for him.
If he comes back it will be one a free, we will not pay 100+ for a player esp one we sold. Wages wise by that time he would be looking at a lot less than what rooney makes now.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:53 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Totally agree he won't come back to england unless its United. The shite storm if he joined city would be insane.
Ronny wouldn't dare join those filthy mercenaries. Imagine the hairdryer treatment he would get from SAF if it were to happen.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:58 am to BleedPurpleGold
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Haha no. These are businessmen. They only care about money and a return on that investment. I highly doubt these guys would drop as much money as they are without feeling like it'll translate into success.
I truly don't think that Mansour is worried about a profit at City for at least the next decade. He wants titles more than anything right now. If he was worried about a profit, in the short, he wouldn't have bought an MLS franchise.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:01 am to StraightCashHomey21
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same here but this shows City isn't changing their mentality
You know as well as anyone those articles aren't worth the paper they're printed on
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:02 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You know as well as anyone those articles aren't worth the paper they're printed on
LINK
Revista de La Liga is the best and most in depth english speaking La Liga coverage you can find.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 9:03 am
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:03 am to McCaigBro69
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I truly don't think that Mansour is worried about a profit at City for at least the next decade. He wants titles more than anything right now. If he was worried about a profit, in the short, he wouldn't have bought an MLS franchise.
so almost 20 years and no profit
the MLS franchise is being used as a FFP write off.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:08 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Revista de La Liga is the best and most in depth english speaking La Liga coverage you can find.
You are being willfully obtuse. I know you're a ManU fan so you don't like City, but at least try to be fair. Rumors in articles do not, in any kind of way, equal hard numbers.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:15 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You are being willfully obtuse. I know you're a ManU fan so you don't like City, but at least try to be fair. Rumors in articles do not, in any kind of way, equal hard numbers.
Im being fair by posting legit sources
The point is that this is even being talked about shows City won't change their way of thinking
then you have this
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"This year we improved the squad while working within those limits,” Pellegrini said.
“What we did not do was bring in a crack (player). I think this team now needs a crack, another special player just to give us that sense that we are now at another level."
Pellegrini thinks the FFP regulations have unfairly punished City. Owner Sheikh Mansour may have spent extraordinary sums recruiting players but that has been matched by heavy investment on infrastructure to grow the club and City are debt-free.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:17 am to StraightCashHomey21
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The point is that this is even being talked about shows City won't change their way of thinking
It's their money so they can build their team via whatever philosophy they want as far as I'm concerned.
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Pellegrini thinks the FFP regulations have unfairly punished City. Owner Sheikh Mansour may have spent extraordinary sums recruiting players but that has been matched by heavy investment on infrastructure to grow the club and City are debt-free.
You consistently ignore/try to explain away the bolded part.
You can hem and haw and spin all you want but the fact is that over the last 5 years City has spent about the same on transfers as ManU has.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 9:18 am
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You consistently ignore/try to explain away the bolded part.
Dude we've addressed this point countless times. Maybe you should reread the thread.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You consistently ignore/try to explain away the bolded part.
not at all its been discussed in this thread
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You can hem and haw and spin all you want but the fact is that over the last 5 years City has spent about the same on transfers as ManU has.
omg for fricks sake
this has been gone over again
This is due to FFP restrictions and United's spending spree. One window caused this.
The four years before FFP restrictions that limit City's spending and United's spending spree each team spent like this each year.
City spent
£103,200,000
£54,000,000
£76,000,000
£154,750,000 (most ever for an EPL team)
United spent
£67,700,000
£63,000,000
£52,900,000
£27,200,000
So once again your little attempt to look smart on this City out of control spending myth is fail.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:27 am to BleedPurpleGold
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Dude we've addressed this point countless times. Maybe you should reread the thread.
"Not really debt free"
"Only doing it to circumvent FFP"
You blast then for building a team the "wrong way", then when they invest heavily in youth/developmental clubs you blast them for only doing it to get around the rules
and then you wonder why I call your criticisms unfair and baseless.Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:28 am to StraightCashHomey21
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This is due to FFP restrictions and United's spending spree. One window caused this.
Doesn't matter. That window happened and still counts all the same.
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