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re: Man City's "out of control spending" is a myth
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Yes 6th place Southampton is a burgeoning European power?
Not bad for being in admin and relegated to the 3rd division only 6 years ago.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 3:18 pm
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:18 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Chelsea, I know, have been good spenders and have made returns on pretty much most of the people they've bought and then sold recently.
The reason I asked is because StraightCash was giving the hypothetical about City possibly stopping the way they spend when Mansour gets tired of the club, and I was just curious if that had happened before. I know it happens with small clubs every once in awhile.
I know City hasn't created anybody worth anything really in their youth program, but does the new facilities, playing for a title competing club not give them somewhat of an edge moving forward? I know they have several individuals who were at La Masia for awhile running the place.
The reason I asked is because StraightCash was giving the hypothetical about City possibly stopping the way they spend when Mansour gets tired of the club, and I was just curious if that had happened before. I know it happens with small clubs every once in awhile.
I know City hasn't created anybody worth anything really in their youth program, but does the new facilities, playing for a title competing club not give them somewhat of an edge moving forward? I know they have several individuals who were at La Masia for awhile running the place.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:19 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Not bad for being in admin and relegated to the 3rd division only 6 years ago.
You can overtake Swansea and Stoke doing it that way, and kudos to them for doing so.
But you can't be a major player in Europe without splashing the cash at least initially. It just can't be done.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:21 pm to McCaigBro69
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I know it happens with small clubs every once in awhile.
Well City is still a small club
and used to be a yoyo club
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I know City hasn't created anybody worth anything really in their youth program, but does the new facilities, playing for a title competing club not give them somewhat of an edge moving forward? I know they have several individuals who were at La Masia for awhile running the place.
I really don't see any of these kids ever really getting a shot. You can develop all the talent you want. But it takes balls to put them in the first team.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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You're avoiding the question
Apologies. The answer is no. Using an initial influx of money to create a vast loan network would be a creative and acceptable use of funds for City.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:22 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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But you can't be a major player in Europe without splashing the cash at least initially. It just can't be done.
United class of 92 says hi
Youth products ended United's title drought and 30 year wait to win europe again.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:24 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I'm not talking about Manchester freaking United. That should be pretty obvious.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:24 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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I really don't see any of these kids ever really getting a shot.
Case and point - Jack Rodwell. Buy them young then destroy their career.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I'm not talking about Manchester freaking United. That should be pretty obvious.
You do realize that "Manchester freaking United" wasn't near the level they've become until that youth class. SAF built the greatest successful run a club has ever had on the basis of that youth class. United have always been successful, but not like the juggernauts of world football they are today until those kids.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:28 pm to BleedPurpleGold
and has always played youth
even now despite spending 150 million this summer
even now despite spending 150 million this summer
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:28 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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You do realize that "Manchester freaking United" wasn't near the level they've become until that youth class.
So now we're claiming than Manchester United wasn't a big club until SAF
And you say I'm ridiculous.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So now we're claiming than Manchester United wasn't a big club until SAF
Did I say that?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So now we're claiming than Manchester United wasn't a big club until SAF
They were a big club bc they were so well supported but no where near to what they are now
30 years no European cup
25 years no English Championship
even got relegated
We won the odd fa cup here and there
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So now we're claiming than Manchester United wasn't a big club until SAF
They were third behind Arsenal and Liverpool in terms of First Division titles before SAF. A big club but no where near the level they are now. Same is true of Arsenal before Wenger.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:34 pm to crazy4lsu
They had the same amount of first division titles as Villa and Sunderland and were two titles BEHIND Everton before SAF. They had a large following but were nowhere near anything like they are now.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:35 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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were two titles BEHIND Everton before SAF
Is that right? I'll be damned.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:36 pm to crazy4lsu
Everton had 9. United had 7.
I know. SAF, as much as I hate to say it, is possibly the greatest football mind the Prem has ever seen.
I know. SAF, as much as I hate to say it, is possibly the greatest football mind the Prem has ever seen.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:38 pm to BleedPurpleGold
first english team to win europe and busby babes was our only claim to fame before saf
united massive fan base was bc manchester was so big back then
united massive fan base was bc manchester was so big back then
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:40 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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united massive fan base was bc manchester was so big back then
Second largest port in the greatest maritime power in Europe. Most of the spread of the game came out of the Port of Manchester.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 3:40 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Manchester United were always a much much much bigger club that City were pre-buyout. Not even in the same galaxy. To claim that they could have done what ManU did is just ridiculous.
Regardless, it still doesn't answer my question as to why owners should be prevented from spending their own money nor does it answer my question as to where Chelsea would be now if FFP had come around in the late 90's or something.
Regardless, it still doesn't answer my question as to why owners should be prevented from spending their own money nor does it answer my question as to where Chelsea would be now if FFP had come around in the late 90's or something.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 3:42 pm
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