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Klinsmann calls out American players for poor club play post-WC
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:10 pm
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“Right now at the end of 2014, looking at the last couple of months is a bit of a concern to us,” Klinsmann said in a video released by US Soccer. “A lot of our players who played very well in the World Cup and were consistent and worked very hard really dropped their performances after the World Cup.”
Often in the past Klinsmann has been upset that players aren’t challenging themselves abroad. But he doesn’t just expect players to sign with teams in Europe and that’s that. If you take the challenge, you also must pass it.
“Even if they are starters with their teams, or in many cases unfortunately are not starters in their teams anymore – and I’m looking more at the European players in that moment – this is something that we have to improve over the next years,” Klinsmann warned. “Our players have to become stronger to deal with the big moments and then going back into their season and making sure that they play in their club teams on the highest level and especially as starters.”
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:35 pm to Stewie Griffin
Klinnsmann can be a douche but I'm all for him raising the standard
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:44 pm to tsmi136
Im always team klins
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:45 pm to Stewie Griffin
Which is why he called up JAB, right?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:19 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Im always team klins
Me as well. You can't argue with results.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 2:43 pm to TN Bhoy
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Which is why he called up JAB, right?
Well, duh. Klinsy said American players, not German.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 5:49 pm to Stewie Griffin
I know nothing he does is very popular, but I really can't see how anyone can disagree with this. We need to hold our players up to a higher standard and quit being as sentimental with them as we are. I understand the Landon Donovan thing because he's more than just a player, and I agree that leaving him off was a terrible decision whatever the reasoning. Moving forward, though, the US as a footballing nation has to learn to hear a lot of things we don't want to hear.
Is it really wrong that Jurgen says that he's disappointed with players leaving Europe to come home? Is it wrong to say that a lot of our players are playing below where they should be? I don't think so. We need someone who is willing to say these things because it gives everyone the mentality that they need to stay hungry no matter what they're playing for. That's a winning mentality, and our youth will only benefit from the mentality that they need to always be at their best to play for the USMNT.
People like Garber pitching a temper tantrum only set the sport back here. It's okay for the MLS to be a league that serves as a stepping stone to the best leagues and welcomes aging superstars and American heroes as it grows. In my opinion, that's only going to strengthen the league. As ridiculous at it may sound, it'd be great to have a league where rising stars see it as a viable place to get minutes before heading to the elite leagues. Between rising stars, young Americans, and aging stars, the strength of the league slowly rises. The goal is to take steps to get to the top. We'll only suffer if we try to do too much too quickly. Our players are finally starting to get respect in Europe, and we start telling them to stay home? I just think we need to let Jurgen do his thing and stop bitching so much.
Is it really wrong that Jurgen says that he's disappointed with players leaving Europe to come home? Is it wrong to say that a lot of our players are playing below where they should be? I don't think so. We need someone who is willing to say these things because it gives everyone the mentality that they need to stay hungry no matter what they're playing for. That's a winning mentality, and our youth will only benefit from the mentality that they need to always be at their best to play for the USMNT.
People like Garber pitching a temper tantrum only set the sport back here. It's okay for the MLS to be a league that serves as a stepping stone to the best leagues and welcomes aging superstars and American heroes as it grows. In my opinion, that's only going to strengthen the league. As ridiculous at it may sound, it'd be great to have a league where rising stars see it as a viable place to get minutes before heading to the elite leagues. Between rising stars, young Americans, and aging stars, the strength of the league slowly rises. The goal is to take steps to get to the top. We'll only suffer if we try to do too much too quickly. Our players are finally starting to get respect in Europe, and we start telling them to stay home? I just think we need to let Jurgen do his thing and stop bitching so much.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 6:04 pm to Dijkstra
No one disagrees with his sentiment, but the monthly call outs are unnecessary. We know what we need to do.
Go to Europe if possible, get minutes, and play better. If you cannot get playing time, then find a way to do or get some in the MLS if you are not a top American.
Again, his idea is right. It would be nicer if he kept these things internal.
Go to Europe if possible, get minutes, and play better. If you cannot get playing time, then find a way to do or get some in the MLS if you are not a top American.
Again, his idea is right. It would be nicer if he kept these things internal.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 6:11 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
In my opinion, his thought process is that this is what we should demand from our program. He's spoken several times about a major goal is to change the mindset of the fans as well as the players. I've seen several pieces where he's stated that the goal is to have people in the streets demanding more from the players and being honest with them when they're not playing well.
Not to mention, Germans aren't known for their tact. They're very blunt and direct. This isn't anything new for him. He was telling Clint that he hadn't done shite by playing for Fulham right after stepping in. Part of it is the culture and part of it is having accomplished so much over his career. I like the openness and honesty.
Not to mention, Germans aren't known for their tact. They're very blunt and direct. This isn't anything new for him. He was telling Clint that he hadn't done shite by playing for Fulham right after stepping in. Part of it is the culture and part of it is having accomplished so much over his career. I like the openness and honesty.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 6:29 pm to Dijkstra
In my opinion Juergen decided people haven't been talking about him enough recently and had to come up with a way to make the headlines again. He's similar to a bitch in this regard.
Actually he's just a bitch.
Actually he's just a bitch.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 6:38 pm to PTBob
Posted on 11/4/14 at 6:43 pm to Dijkstra
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Not to mention, Germans aren't known for their tact. They're very blunt and direct. This isn't anything new for him. He was telling Clint that he hadn't done shite by playing for Fulham right after stepping in. Part of it is the culture and part of it is having accomplished so much over his career. I like the openness and honesty.
Yeah I appreciate it. He does needs to realize he is coaching a team that represents a very PC and easily-offended nation though.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 7:39 pm to Dijkstra
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I know nothing he does is very popular, but I really can't see how anyone can disagree with this.
My main issue with Jurgy is that he'll say something while contradicting it. For example, he'll complain about players not going to Europe, but then he'll call up and play someone like Wondo instead of Boyd. In this case, he's saying that playing poorly for your club is bad, even if you're playing in Europe, but he just called up JAB who got demoted from his club (and I'm sure that he'll be in the next pool as well). Be consistent.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:50 am to Dijkstra
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I know nothing he does is very popular, but I really can't see how anyone can disagree with this
The only problem I have is that, unless a player is playing in one of the big 4 leagues, I think it helps US soccer more to have players playing for MLS. A player like Beckerman who would have a hard time getting regular min. in a top league serves a better role being a role model in the MLS then playing in the Championship. Donovan not playing in Europe didn't mean he wasn't our best player for the last 5 years. A strong MLS is better than sending boat loads of players to Europe to play in sub par or same level as the MLS leagues.
ETA: I still enjoy watching players in different European Leagues, but I would rather a player be comfortable and playing in form going into USMNT games instead of struggling on some crappy European team.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 12:53 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 3:03 am to Dijkstra
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Germans aren't known for their tact. They're very blunt and direct
deal mit it
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:07 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Germans aren't known for their tact. They're very blunt and direct
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deal mit it
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:02 am to Dijkstra
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he's stated that the goal is to have people in the streets demanding more from the players and being honest with them when they're not playing well
I mean, that sounds nice and all, but that's because people in the streets don't give a shite, not because fans don't demand enough of the players. If he thinks that players are insulated from criticism because soccer is a niche sport, he should just throw on Alexi Lalas's halftime analysis next time Juergen thinks the team is playing poorly.
Overall, players could definitely be criticized more reasonably, but I wouldn't say that fans should be more demanding.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:01 pm to joey barton
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If he thinks that players are insulated from criticism because soccer is a niche sport, he should just throw on Alexi Lalas's halftime analysis next time Juergen thinks the team is playing poorly.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:36 pm to Dijkstra
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our youth will only benefit from the mentality that they need to always be at their best to play for the USMNT.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:56 pm to Dalosaqy
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that they need to always be at their best to play for the USMNT
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