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Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:28 am to EastNastySwag
Pretty convenient to make a stupid arse decision and then just expect people to get over it.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 7:29 am to hendersonshands
Yeah, get over it.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:17 am to cwil177
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It will always be a talking point.
Only because you keep bringing it up
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:27 am to Harry Pitts
Are you serious right now? Jurgen made his bed and will sleep in it. Just like Bob's decision to stick with Clark in midfield in 2010. These are discussion points when we look back on a coach's tenure. You're not living in reality if you think this isn't the case.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:30 am to cwil177
I totally forgot about Ricardo Clark's disastrous start. Why? Because I got over it and moved on.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:43 am to EastNastySwag
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you wanna know what a tiresome circle jerk is...
Every post you make?
Not all of us are drum beating fan boys that jump head over heals for Jurgan frickin' Klinsman or whoever the USMNT coach is.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 8:45 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:45 am to cwil177
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Better get used to it. Like it or not it will always be part of Jurgen's legacy. It will always be a talking point.
Well I guess so, y'all went completely bitch mode about it and never let it go even while we were exceeding expectations in the World Cup. We could make his breakfast yesterday part of his legacy too if we wanted to.
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Jurgen made his bed and will sleep in it.
Y'all do realize you're criticizing squad selection and not actual tournament performance, right? And you do realize we equaled our goal output from 2010 against much much better competition? And you do realize that Landon hadn't been a regular part of the full squad, at first by his own choice, for years prior to the WC and wouldn't have been a starter even if he had been with the team?
Not selecting him for the tournament was just the end product of years of discord between JK and Landon, so your problem with JK is really with his handling of Landon since Landon returned from self-imposed exile. In that context, you really should get over it.
If anything, our performance since the WC should go to show that JK did a remarkable man-management job for us not to get blown out of the WC, and it's no stretch at all to say that JK excluded Landon for "man-management" type reasons and not based on his individual ability.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:24 am to cwil177
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Jurgen made his bed and will sleep in it.
What bed is that??
He is the best coach in the history of the USMNT, regardless of the Landon situation.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:29 am to Harry Pitts
Based on results in the world cup, the pinnacle tournament for national teams, your "best coach" statement doesn't really hold much water.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:34 am to Harry Pitts
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He is the best coach in the history of the USMNT, regardless of the Landon situation.
Do what?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:37 am to Harry Pitts
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He is the best coach in the history of the USMNT, regardless of the Landon situation.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:38 am to Harry Pitts
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He is the best coach in the history of the USMNT
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:39 am to PTBob
Very narrow viewpoint to look at, especially since progressing in the world cup knockout stages is dependent on many more things other than performance on the field. The draw, the climate has everything to do with progressing in the knockout stages when you arent powerhouses such as Germany, Spain, Netherlands etc...
When you look at his whole resume, he is far and away the best coach we have ever had.
ETA: I thought our performance in the world cup was excellent and we were unlucky to draw belgium, a team we did not match up well against. Yet we still nearly got them to penalties.
When you look at his whole resume, he is far and away the best coach we have ever had.
ETA: I thought our performance in the world cup was excellent and we were unlucky to draw belgium, a team we did not match up well against. Yet we still nearly got them to penalties.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:48 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:43 am to cwil177
So you cool with eating food that is genetically modified and filling you body with vaccines it doesnt need- mostly?
GOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL
GOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:46 am to Harry Pitts
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When you look at his whole resume, he is far and away the best coach we have ever had.
Winning a Gold Cup?
And you just disproved your own point and belittled his accomplishments as the German manager.
LMAO.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:51 am to STLhog
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belittled his accomplishments as the German manager.
Explain...
I am referring to his resume with the USMNT, DGAF about his tenure as German coach
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:01 am to Harry Pitts
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Explain...
I am referring to his resume with the USMNT, DGAF about his tenure as German coach
you didn't make that clear. But you essentially said taking a powerhouse like Germany, Spain etc doesn't mean shite.
So winning 1 gold cup makes him our greatest manager ever?
Bradley made it out of the group and Arena made it to the quarters... Both won a gold cup, Arena won 2. Bradley got 2nd in a stacked confed cup beating Spain in the Semi. Jurgan has done nothing close to that.
How about you explain?
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:02 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:05 am to uway
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And you do realize that Landon hadn't been a regular part of the full squad, at first by his own choice, for years prior to the WC and wouldn't have been a starter even if he had been with the team?
Years? I think you mean months. And you do realize that Donovan was the best player in our pool (with the possible exception being Clint) just one year before the WC, right?
As far as starting goes, please answer this question honestly: Do you think Donovan would have been a better #10 than Bradley?
A personal vendetta against Donovan shouldn't come at the expense of the TEAM. It's not like Donovan was a poisonous presence, a la Nasri. In fact, the other players wanted Landon to be on the team. He was probably still our best wing player (certainly better than Brad Davis), our best forward, and our best potential #10.
I'm proud of what our team, and Jurgen, accomplished at the WC but as fans we should want to push for accountability and improvement. Criticism is a normal part of this process. Jurgen has made some extremely questionable personnel decisions, and don't forget that he will be coaching us through the WC in 2018. It's still astonishing to me that he didn't bring a backup hold up striker, and instead brought an injured Johannsson, when our entire gameplan for the WC relied on hold up play. It's scary how myopic that was, and was probably worse than the LD omission. I'm praying something similar doesn't transpire in 2018, but with Jurgen there are no guarantees.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:17 am to uway
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And you do realize that Landon hadn't been a regular part of the full squad, at first by his own choice, for years prior to the WC
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Citing fatigue and a loss of motivation, Donovan exiled himself from professional soccer from December 2012 to March 2013.
YEAAAARRRRZZZZZZZZ.
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and wouldn't have been a starter even if he had been with the team
Starters for the last meaningful qualifier:
Goal 1: (Donovan assist)
Goal 2: (Donovan goal)
But, but, but - he was fat! But, but, but - that time he tripped over Marquez!
Keep rewriting that history, homie.
And ignore the guy finishing in front of goal at the far post - that'll never come into play in a game that matters, right?
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