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re: Countries in the Champions League + Michael Owen's thoughts

Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by Harry Caray
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

most on this board still consider the Bundesliga a second-rate league.


I never got this impression. I thought most, if not all of us, saw the Germans on par with the English.


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Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:54 pm to
Yea most on the board pull for the German clubs even when playing the English ones. I know I do.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28422 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:55 pm to
Hendo, you're a little sensitive about the German thing

At this point it's dumb to argue with its success.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 5:00 pm to
Its not below the EPL or La Liga this year at all.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:26 pm to
i didnt read this thread but fricking bayern vs. BVB in champions league final #boner
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18917 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:32 pm to
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bayern vs. BVB in champions league final #boner


My penis would explode.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:37 pm to
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i didnt read this thread but fricking bayern vs. BVB in champions league final #boner

Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:49 pm to
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fall of La Liga happening as we speak



Don't buy that, unless you are talking about their economy.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:47 pm to
Why is that?
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31060 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:58 pm to
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even though most on this board still consider the Bundesliga a second-rate league.


Who?

I think most posters think that there is more quality in the English mid-table or something like that. That is probably due to being more familiar with the league.

There are too many arbitrary ways to rate leagues. You can make pretty reasonable cases for any of the three top leagues, and you will probably end simply arguing for the one you know the most about.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:01 pm to
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Why is that?


Atleti, Betis, and Malaga are becoming much better than the cannon fodder of years past. The rise of the Athletics, the Vigos and the Sociedads are bringing more meaning to the season than just the Clasicos.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:31 pm to
I think he's referring to the financial situation of the league. The Athletics, Atleticos etc. will have to gain enough pull to force a renegotiation of the La Liga TV deals. Right now those clubs can't afford to keep their players because of mounting debt. If the TV deals still remain favorable to Barça and Real, the taxman might finally come down on teams without enough assets.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 8:53 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:50 pm to
Yep. How much longer until Isco, Castro, Leon, Turan, Aspas, Falcao and others are scooped up by bigger clubs? Their current clubs can't afford to keep them once the bids start coming in.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:05 pm to
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I think he's referring to the financial situation of the league



I agree about that, but I think that the Catalan secession movement will bring on new talks with Barca wanting to be able to stay in La Liga if secession happens.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:56 pm to
Juventus one of the most impressive? ehhh...lately maybe but definitely not overall.
but yeah Dortmund has been pretty impressive
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:14 pm to
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I agree about that, but I think that the Catalan secession movement will bring on new talks with Barca wanting to be able to stay in La Liga if secession happens.

Isn't the talk that Barça (and Espanyol) would play in Ligue 1 if the secession went down?
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 10:15 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:15 pm to
I think Juve will go a long way in this tournament. I love their midfield so much and they're solid on defense. Teams will have to completely dominate the ball in order to beat them over 2 legs, IMO
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28614 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:18 am to
Just read that 16 Spanish teams in the 1st division are in debt to the Spanish government.
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