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re: Chelsea 16/17 Season Long Thread | Farewell JT Edition
Posted on 7/3/16 at 7:44 pm to jackwoods4
Posted on 7/3/16 at 7:44 pm to jackwoods4
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Kante
Would love to sign Kante. Keeping my hopes up. Also thinking we need another CB and ST, even with Michy
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Posted on 7/3/16 at 8:05 pm to LSU Red24
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Would love to sign Kante. Keeping my hopes up. Also thinking we need another CB and ST, even with Michy
I wouldn't be surprised if Conte tried to get Pelle. He obviously likes his hold up and passing game in the 3-5-2.
It also makes some sense insofar as Pelle is 31yo and would likely be a lot easier to convince to come on board even if he was only a backup player. Conte loves team players.
Posted on 7/4/16 at 12:45 pm to wm72
Pelle won't do shite to improve our squad. We don't need to worry about a third striker option when we already have Bertrand in that role. We need to figure out our midfield and back line.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 9:16 am to lynxcat
I just don't want to be shite out of luck when Costa is inevitably suspended for a few matches
Posted on 7/5/16 at 9:18 am to LSU Red24
That's why we have two other capable young strikers on the squad. If Pelle wants to sit his arse on the bench then by all means. However, he shouldn't play more than a couple matches all year.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 9:20 am to lynxcat
Pelle seems to work well with Conte. I wouldnt discredit that.
Costa is always a risk of a hammy injury or suspension. Having a possible front line featuring two young and unproven players, whose playstyles appear pretty similar, sounds like a regrettable risk.
If Conte plans on a 2 striker system this season, we absolutely need a backup target st.
Costa is always a risk of a hammy injury or suspension. Having a possible front line featuring two young and unproven players, whose playstyles appear pretty similar, sounds like a regrettable risk.
If Conte plans on a 2 striker system this season, we absolutely need a backup target st.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 9:23 am to cigsmcgee
Then let's sign him and move on to even more important needs. 
I hope we get out a wad of bills and send them to Rome on the next flight.
I hope we get out a wad of bills and send them to Rome on the next flight.
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 7/5/16 at 12:24 pm to cigsmcgee
If we sign Pelle before we sign a CB or CM, I will be pretty mad.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 3:54 pm to jackwoods4
Posted on 7/5/16 at 5:33 pm to lynxcat
System players are exactly what Chelsea need. Pelle would excel with Conte at the helm. Just because a player isn't worth £100m and doesn't have his name written in lights doesn't mean he can't prove to be a valuable asset in a formation which requires players who suit it. I think Leicester have proven the value of players who fit the system. Pelle would be a great signing for Chelsea.
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 7/5/16 at 6:18 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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System players are exactly what Chelsea need. Pelle would excel with Conte at the helm. Just because a player isn't worth £100m and doesn't have his name written in lights doesn't mean he can't prove to be a valuable asset in a formation which requires players who suit it. I think Leicester have proven the value of players who fit the system. Pelle would be a great signing for Chelsea
It's not that we hate the idea of Pelle. We just hate that this is a focus point when there is a literal gaping hole in the midfield. Chelsea got outplayed in midfield by average teams. That shouldn't ever happen. Also, if there's three at the back, it might be wise to invest in a CB because Zouma may or may not be fit, Terry is 100 years old, Cahill is not good and there's no guarantee a guy like Dave can be one of the outside backs in the back three.
I just want to focus on the glaring weaknesses that are present before we worry about signing a third striker.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 6:42 pm to jackwoods4
Totally understandable. If that's where the conversation was, I apologize. I just got the impression he wasn't a star signing so some people were put off by the idea of having him at Chelsea.
FWIW, I will say I'm not sure he'd be third string. Batshi is young and not ready for the pressure that comes with first choice striker at Chelsea. I'm also not convinced Costa is built for that type of hold up play striker in a 3-5-2.
FWIW, I will say I'm not sure he'd be third string. Batshi is young and not ready for the pressure that comes with first choice striker at Chelsea. I'm also not convinced Costa is built for that type of hold up play striker in a 3-5-2.
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 7/5/16 at 6:53 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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I just got the impression he wasn't a star signing so some people were put off by the idea of having him at Chelsea.
Man, I'm all about signing anybody who makes Chelsea better. It almost felt like the USWNT could've run circles around the Chelsea midfield at times last year which is why I want somebody new to come in there above all else
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FWIW, I will say I'm not sure he'd be third string. Batshi is young and not ready for the pressure that comes with first choice striker at Chelsea. I'm also not convinced Costa is built for that type of hold up play striker in a 3-5-2.
I think Pelle would definitely play a role. Costa is capable of hold up play, but I don't think it's making the most of his skill set. Early this season he was dropping deep to get the ball too much or drifting wide too frequently. He seemed so focused on making things happen for everyone else (probably because the rest of the team didn't create anything). He's really good when he's running channels, running at defenders with the ball or catching defenders by surprise on balls over the top. He's not the fastest player, but he does a pretty good job of stretching defenses when he's at his best. He's also lethal when he's in the box with good service. I think Pelle definitely would be better about allowing teammates to get in on the play. I just want Costa in or around the box with the ball at his feet or the ball arriving.
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:14 pm to jackwoods4
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Costa is capable of hold up play, but I don't think it's making the most of his skill set.
You'd know more about him than I would, but this is why I think it would be integral to have that traditional 9, like Conte used in the national team. If Costa can play off of those aerial knock downs and run at isolated defenders, you may see a great partnership. In any case, I think the most important part of Conte's attack is his 9, but as you said, finding three good CBs probably should take priority above all else at this point.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:34 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Costa's touch is too donkey to be that good at holding the ball with his back to goal.
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:22 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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You'd know more about him than I would, but this is why I think it would be integral to have that traditional 9, like Conte used in the national team. If Costa can play off of those aerial knock downs and run at isolated defenders, you may see a great partnership. In any case, I think the most important part of Conte's attack is his 9, but as you said, finding three good CBs probably should take priority above all else at this point.
Yeah, that's kind of why I brought up the Pelle idea in the first place.
Conte's system has always been extremely regimented (why he gets criticism also) where players pass blindly to spots after winning possession and the strong passing, hold up #9 is the main option.
Conte's trademark and it's seemingly more important than scoring goals. . . Conte's had some excellent teams where the #9 was much more a passing option/pivot than a dynamic scorer (Llorente or Matri) with a second striker who's strong but dynamic playing off them like Vucinic, Tevez . . .
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:25 pm to wm72
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wm72
You've probably watched more of Conte's system than all the Chelsea fans combined. How would you see Hazard fitting into this team? Is he surplus to requirements in this system? Would he work as a secondary striker? He probably doesn't have the work rate to play as a wide midfielder/WB in this system, huh?
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:38 pm to jackwoods4
It may be that Conte completely re-examines his system.
If he doesn't though, based on what he'd done in the past, I think he may try Hazard some at second striker but he'll also set Chelsea up in a 3-4-3 pretty often.
If you were watching, the formation Italy switched to against Germany late in the match . . . where the second striker, Eder, moved a bit wider but still tries to play off the #9 while Insigne --a pretty similar player to Hazard actually-- was brought on as a pure left winger.
He's used that formation a lot with Juventus and Italy the past few seasons.
If he doesn't though, based on what he'd done in the past, I think he may try Hazard some at second striker but he'll also set Chelsea up in a 3-4-3 pretty often.
If you were watching, the formation Italy switched to against Germany late in the match . . . where the second striker, Eder, moved a bit wider but still tries to play off the #9 while Insigne --a pretty similar player to Hazard actually-- was brought on as a pure left winger.
He's used that formation a lot with Juventus and Italy the past few seasons.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:34 am to wm72
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