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re: Arsenal 2015/2016 Season Long Thread
Posted on 8/25/15 at 5:06 am to bamaphan13
Posted on 8/25/15 at 5:06 am to bamaphan13
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I don't think Wilshere will ever stay healthy long enough to be considered a mainstay in the lineup for the future.
I agree with this. Anything we get from Wilshere going forward will be a bonus. He's just too Ming vase brittle.
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:06 am to RTR America
I still think that's a good lineup minus the cb pairing. but bellerin had a bad game as well. him overlapping Ramsey works well at times. Arsene just needs to find the rt balance for certain teams.
I wouldn't be apposed to the Ramsey arteta axis. Liverpool still has a good squad and we really should have won that. looking at second half stats, Arsenal completely dominated them.
The struggles in the first half were the give aways, chambers had 4 in the game, Alexis turned it over 8 times. But people aren't saying how bad he played.
I wouldn't be apposed to the Ramsey arteta axis. Liverpool still has a good squad and we really should have won that. looking at second half stats, Arsenal completely dominated them.
The struggles in the first half were the give aways, chambers had 4 in the game, Alexis turned it over 8 times. But people aren't saying how bad he played.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:38 am to dgnx6
Arsenal not having Alexis on last season's form is hurting since Giroud isn't picking up the slack. Ramsey is playing better but then Cazorla seems to not be as good as last year. If only we could get everyone to pick it up just a little bit. I do agree with some of the previous posts that the players who tend to drive at the defense seem to be faring better on the pitch, namely Ramsey, and Ox. Wilshire is that same type of player as well, but oh well.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:44 pm to ATLienTiger
I hate to drop Coquelin after that match but I really want to see what Ramsey and Arteta can do for our attack. Frees up Ox or Theo to play wide. Michael Cox had a good write up for ESPNFC on it today.
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Either that or try Coq and Ramsey. I think they can work together despite the West Ham half. Coq's passing is much improved.
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Either that or try Coq and Ramsey. I think they can work together despite the West Ham half. Coq's passing is much improved.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:08 pm to Stewie Griffin
The basic problem is this. Ramsey has to improve his short range passing in such a way that he can make the first station pass between the lines, something he really doesn't attempt all that much, instead of him being on the receiving end of that short range pass from Cazorla. Coquelin can't make that pass, and should be the outlet to move the ball from left to right so that Ramsey can make that pass. Ramsey has to sacrifice a vertical game for a horizontal game. The other option is to just fricking pair Ramsey and Wilshere together. Just do it, let them learn on their own, and we will try to compete next year. Because this year we are not going to be good enough.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:29 pm to crazy4lsu
The problem yesterday was having a brand new cb pairing with very little game time under their belt. Chambers must have completed more passes to Liverpool than he did Arsenal in the first half. With such shaky distribution from the back it lead to panic and misplaced passes by the whole team. Now in the second half we looked much more likely to score and created a handful of really good chances. The problem is we are not scoring these chances. I think a improvement at striker will help ease the scoring load but i'm also in for a right winger that contribute goals too. We really lack an efficient goal scorer.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 4:55 pm to crazy4lsu
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Coquelin can't make that pass
Are we sure? I'll copy part of a post I just put on Reddit.
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2) Coquelin's passing is much improved. He's at 90% this year through three games (was 88% vs Chelsea in Community Shield, 92.5% vs. Aston Villa, was at 88% for the last 10 games of 2014-15 and 90% for the last 8). And those aren't just square balls. 76% of his passes this season have been forward passes. While he doesn't make the same sort of cutting passes as Cazorla (12 key passes for Santi, just one for Coq), he's got similar range, actually connecting on more long balls than Santi this year and at a higher rate, with a longer average pass distance (17 m for Coq, 16 m for Santi). Ozil's ability to thread balls in should suffice for the loss of Cazorla.
And if we are, couldn't Per make that pass?
I'm leaning toward seeing what Coquelin and Ramsey can do as a pair. I'd like to see Coquelin play the Arteta role. His passing isn't to Arteta's level yet, but it's getting better and better.
When Wilshere's healthy I'd love to pair him with Ramsey. If that's our future then it has to start some time.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 4:59 pm to DB10_AFC
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Brilliant read on Conquelin. LINK
I didn't find that brilliant at all.
Coquelin was great at "defending in space" last year and yesterday. When we went on our long unbeaten run in the second half of the season, many of those games were ones in which we dominated the ball in the opponent's half and asked Coquelin to hunt it back down. Manchester City was the exception, not the rule.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 5:03 pm to Stewie Griffin
We drew Spurs in the Capital One Cuppity Cup Cup third round.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 5:16 pm to Stewie Griffin
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I'm leaning toward seeing what Coquelin and Ramsey can do as a pair. I'd like to see Coquelin play the Arteta role. His passing isn't to Arteta's level yet, but it's getting better and better.
When Wilshere's healthy I'd love to pair him with Ramsey. If that's our future then it has to start some time.
I would like this. Start Ox on the right.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 5:40 pm to Stewie Griffin
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Are we sure?
Many of Coquelin's passes move left to right, even if they are forward. Even his long balls are generally moving the ball from one flank to the other. What I'm talking about is a particular the ability to pick tight passes, which Mertesacker can't do, nor can Coquelin, at the moment. What we need from the position is the cutting pass, the one that bypasses the first midfield line into the smallest pockets of space. Arteta was great at it, and was good enough defensively that we could play a runner wide. The biggest problem is that Coq doesn't necessarily know how to make the angles to make that sort of pass. Ramsey can't really do it either, as his forte are long passes from flank to flank as well. Wilshere is absolutely brilliant at it, which is why the potential pairing of Ramsey-Wilshere can work. There was a preseason game last year, and a couple of games before we switched Ozil back to the no. 10 role where Wilshere was brilliant at making that pass into space. For exactly what I'm talking about, we could look at Ramsey's winning goal in the FA Cup final two years ago. After Ramsey won the ball back, Arteta rotated it to Wilshere, who made a forward pass into a space of maybe 3 yards for Sanogo who barely controlled it enough to play it to Giroud who did what he does. That pass bypassed a midfield line into an extremely tight space, and is a pass that only three of our players can consistently make, Arteta, Wilshere and Cazorla.
Our balance issues have to do with the entry pass between the forward lines. It's a hard pass to make. And we need someone to make that pass consistently so that Ramsey and Ozil can run and Giroud can combine with them.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 5:51 pm to crazy4lsu
Yeah, I know the pass you mean. It's the pass Ozil and Ramsey love to receive. I'm hopeful Coq can learn it. It's why I wanted Schneiderlin, who can do the defensive stuff and make that pass.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:47 pm to Stewie Griffin
So it's bayern again
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:52 pm to leoj
Finish second in group, lose to Barca in Round of 16, finish third/fourth in league. Rinse, repeat.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:01 pm to leoj
quote:I has the faith.
So it's bayern again
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:42 pm to crazy4lsu
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What I'm talking about is a particular the ability to pick tight passes, which Mertesacker can't do, nor can Coquelin, at the moment. What we need from the position is the cutting pass, the one that bypasses the first midfield line into the smallest pockets of space.
I get what you're saying but I think that we need a more mobile forward than Giroud for this to really work. Ozil is good at floating into space but he doesn't have separation speed. Ramsey wants to come into the middle and so does Sanchez. They all want the ball at their feet and things get crowded. Our system is just flawed in that way, imo, and our lack of goal scoring over the last 8 or so premier league games shows that.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:04 am to cwil177
We could really use a forward who can run the channels and hold the ball up. Not many can do it. It's why I'm high on Welbeck.
Ozil didn't train today btw.
Ozil didn't train today btw.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:53 am to Stewie Griffin
Anyone know why he didn't train?
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:56 am to cwil177
Apparently he was in training. Misinformation.
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