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New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/16/13 at 6:29 pm Mostly yes because that is where the TE position is trending. Blocking is important but it has definitely become a secondary attribute. Teams aren't drafting blocking TEs high in the draft and they are not getting paid the big bucks. So how do you get in position to score? You make catches and ga... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/15/13 at 11:07 pm I should have phrased that differently. I meant Graham clearly had a better season than any other TE except those 2. They were clearly the best 3 TEs last year. Where Jimmy ranks between them I think is debatable. Some could say he had the best overall season. Some might say while Witten didn'... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/15/13 at 9:08 pm I said Graham produced the better season, not that he had better production per game. What part of that are you not comprehending? The list is about who had the best 2012 season, and of those on the list only Gonzalez and Witten had a better season. I don't give a flying frick what Gronkowski was ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/15/13 at 12:55 am It's hard to block with a bum wrist and Gronk is not like an extra lineman when blocking. Is he good at it? Yes. Better than Graham? At this point yes. But he is not the best blocking TE in the league(and yes I know you didn't claim that, just pointing it out before delusional thoughts take over). ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/15/13 at 12:48 am He had a better season because he played more of it and put up more stats(albeit 2 less tds). Had Gronk stayed healthy he likely would have had a better season than Jimmy. But then we can say had Graham not had an injured wrist he would have put up better stats. You can't go with what ifs. Fact i... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/14/13 at 8:05 pm What do you people not get about these top 100 lists being just for that season. It's not a per game thing or a career thing. What did they do last season? Graham had the better season. Period.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/14/13 at 5:04 pm [quote]I think he was also saying that Tony Gonzalez is the standard by which consistently great TE's should be measured. Graham has the potential to be that type of player.[/quote] Yeah it was more of this than saying one player is better than the other. I said Graham could be a player that is u... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/14/13 at 4:50 pm [quote]Youre saying Gronk is not in his league, which is beyond stupid [/quote] Where? I said any other TE in the league would love to have the season Graham had outside of maybe Gonazalez because he has been doing that year in and year out. I was not saying anything about one player being... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/14/13 at 12:51 pm So you don't think Gronk would have rather played 15 games and had 85 catches and almost 1,000 yards as opposed to having played 11 games, catching 55 passes, and pulling in nearly 800 yards? Yes I'm stupid for saying Jimmy had a better year than Gronkowski last year. :rolleyes:... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/14/13 at 9:33 am [quote]Gronk was my point [/quote]You mean the guy that had 1 big year? http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13229/rob-gronkowski Yeah I know he had injuries last year but he is only 3 years in the league and his first year only had decent TE stats(save for the tds which was still not OMGA... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/13/13 at 11:46 pm 2-3 years is nice, but he's been doing it for much longer was my point. I think Graham has the potential to have that type of career. If his "down" years are like last year, he could wind up the greatest TE ever. That said, he's only had 2 great years. Once he gets to 5 we'll call him(or anyon... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/13/13 at 10:13 pm And they could get around it if they have at least 2 players "vote" on the list. The whole thing is most definitely done to get attention in the off season. If they don't have big snubs or players who shouldn't be on there, the list would be "boring". Bringing in current players on the "after" sh... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Opinions on Jimmy Graham not making the top 100 list? - bonethug0108 on 6/13/13 at 9:27 pm Not a big deal but being that this is voted on by his peers he might have a bigger chip on his shoulder. Despite being a "down" year for him, he still had a season that every TE in the league would hope to have(maybe aside from Gonzalez who has been the only TE in recent history to put up those n... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Devery Henderson appreciation thread. - bonethug0108 on 6/13/13 at 9:23 pm Looking at the stats it's clear Devery was the better player. Plus he still has a career(for now). Clayton had one huge year his first year while Devery only played one game his first year(both 2004). Since that year Clayton never reached 40 catches and last had more than 20 catches in 2008. ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Devery Henderson appreciation thread. - bonethug0108 on 6/13/13 at 12:17 pm [quote]The last Saint on the roster from the Haslett era.[/quote]Will Smith. But yeah Dev had a great run with us and I wish him luck beating out Stallworth.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Victor Butler sustains knee injury during Tuesday's OTA session - bonethug0108 on 6/11/13 at 2:11 pm [quote]Payton also said he thinks Butler will be fine and the Saints were fortunate it wasn't worse.[/quote]Where do I send the flowers? Does he have a widow?... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Mark Ingram playing with third string - bonethug0108 on 6/10/13 at 7:28 am [quote]I have no worries that the best runner with play this year. CSP giving runs to MI just to try and get him going are over.[/quote]Also agree with this. Early on he might script some series for each back but I think as the year goes on if Ingram isn't producing with more consecutive carries he'... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Mark Ingram playing with third string - bonethug0108 on 6/10/13 at 7:24 am Whoever wrote that is doing a huge spin piece. First it says second string in Holder's quote and second no one but the guy who wrote the article said he's falling out of favor. And let's not forget that Payton rotates almost everyone on offense and defense.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Junior Galettes Pimp Corner - bonethug0108 on 6/7/13 at 5:05 pm For the people who don't understand twitter "speak" he is quoting other people, not saying this stuff himself save for the drier than the sahara crack after the other guy talks about older women.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Saints Mini Camp Starts Today... - bonethug0108 on 6/4/13 at 12:04 pm [quote]John Jenkins was in for one snap.[/quote]Something we should probably get used to for his first year. Like Vaccaro making a play against Colston.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Rob Ryans Defense Causing A Stir At OTA's - bonethug0108 on 6/2/13 at 10:27 am I haz it.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Patriots workout former saints DL Ellis - bonethug0108 on 6/2/13 at 9:23 am I think any fan that actually has knowledge of the game and paid attention to him knew Wilfork was great at taking up space and stuffing the run but couldn't move faster than pubic hair growing. The pats definitely need someone to come in on pass downs for Wilfork, but if they find someone other ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Rob Ryans Defense Causing A Stir At OTA's - bonethug0108 on 6/2/13 at 9:13 am Maybe we should have looked at that as Brees forcing too many throws just like he did in games. Hopefully with Bushrod gone someone can step in and do a better job, and Strief being healthy will definitely help.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Let's start looking at stats from last season - bonethug0108 on 6/2/13 at 9:07 am [quote]I also think that scheme was an issue in our secondary last season, so we should see some improvement there. As many have said, the Vaccaro pick allows us to be much more versatile in the back of our defense. I know some people wanted Jones because they were enamored with his sack totals at U... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: You've Gotta Be Quicker Than That... (Falcons Edition) - bonethug0108 on 6/1/13 at 12:58 am [quote]You gotta love the revisionist history.[/quote]They've had 3 games at home in the playoffs with Ryan and barely won 1 by a late field goal(and their only playoff win under Smith/Ryan). They also failed to score on offense in another playoff game against the Giants. We've won all our home p... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: You've Gotta Be Quicker Than That... (Falcons Edition) - bonethug0108 on 5/31/13 at 11:02 pm [quote]Oh yeah, they had a fricking epic choke in blowing a 21 point lead in one half!!! [/quote]Are you implying the falcons choked at home in the playoffs? That has NEVER happened before. :rotflmao: They almost choked against the seahawks the week before. Just Matty Ice being Matty Melt i... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Armstead up to 315lbs, runs with 1st team - bonethug0108 on 5/31/13 at 1:23 pm [quote]I know that dude.[/quote]Just trying to say that some guys' bodies are still changing and unless you know Armstead personally and what his body will do, I don't think any of us can say his body is done maturing. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I do know he is fast but still a little light com... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Armstead up to 315lbs, runs with 1st team - bonethug0108 on 5/31/13 at 1:19 pm I don't know Armstead's situation well enough to say if his body is "mature" or not. Only thing I'm saying is he is plenty fast so adding some bulk will only help him.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Armstead up to 315lbs, runs with 1st team - bonethug0108 on 5/31/13 at 1:16 pm [quote]dude went through 4 years of college. he's mature enough. he didn't leave after a couple of seasons.[/quote]I didn't mention Armstead in particular. Just saying some guys come in and their body changes a lot(frame, height, big weight shifts, etc.)... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
New Orleans Saints Talk	re: Armstead up to 315lbs, runs with 1st team - bonethug0108 on 5/31/13 at 1:12 pm [quote]stop twisting stuff.[/quote] Didn't know you could see what I was doing with my other hand.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic

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