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re: Western (states) lawmakers strategize on taking control of Federal lands - Mohican
[quote]Solely because the state was not involved in any of this. [/quote] Maybe because the status quo takes time to change. I doubt this meeting happens without the Bundy stand, however. The realization that it is their right to own it was the outcome. Now, we'll see if the wheels are set in...


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re: Western (states) lawmakers strategize on taking control of Federal lands - Mohican
[quote]There really is not good reason for the Federal government to own any of the land that isn't needed for specific federal operations. [/quote] Article I specifically states this. ...


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re: Western (states) lawmakers strategize on taking control of Federal lands - Mohican
THIS is why the Bundy stand was significant, for those who have been wrestling with which side is right or wrong. ...


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re: Confession of a 47%er - Mohican
[quote]And no, the OP doesn't "deserve" $90,000 a year. That's absurd. [/quote] That is a lot of fricking money. [quote]if you feel you are getting more than you deserve then you probably are.... [/quote] This is closer to the right answer. But, as he has stated, who would tur...


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re: Suspected Boston Bomber's message in the boat - Mohican
Sounds like he's got a hurt [bullet hole]....


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re: 18 Things White People Seem To Not Understand (Because, White Privilege) - Mohican
[quote]Let's say these are true. What am I supposed to do about it?[/quote]...


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re: Bundy Ranch - What You're Not Being Told - Mohican
[quote]It just seems that a lot of people want to paint it as the Bundys being kicked off their land by the big bad government when that isn't exactly the truth of all of it.[/quote] Well, the Bundys and every other rancher in the area. It's pretty obvious they were strongarmed, whether or...


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re: "We can't just ignore the laws we don't like". - Mohican
[quote][i]After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which ...


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re: "We can't just ignore the laws we don't like". - Mohican
[quote]It's actually pretty spot on, even if Rory is a douche.[/quote] I guess so, even if the people that make those laws (upon laws, upon laws, upon laws) do so for their own personal benefit and to create a bubble for a protected class. I mean, laws are laws, right? Can't have an unl...


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re: 300+ Nevada ranchers and militia stage an armed insurrection against the USBLM - Mohican
[quote]If the federal government wants to use the land for something else (endangered species offset, or whatever), is the federal government stuck with the rancher until the rancher decides to stop using the land? quote:[/quote] Bundy's stance is that there is a Constitutional question as to ...


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re: Princeton study: U.S. is an oligarchy - Mohican
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re: BLM now taking land from TX rancher....but he owns his land - UPDATED - Mohican
[quote]Is it federal land? [/quote] If they say it is then it must be. ...


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re: 300+ Nevada ranchers and militia stage an armed insurrection against the USBLM - Mohican
[quote]What if I don't want a pipeline crossing my land at any price, and I'm willing to take a stand like Bundy is? It will be interesting how many supporters and detractors of Bundy will be consistent in who they support in that scenario. [/quote] This is different in that Bundy is not the l...


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re: 300+ Nevada ranchers and militia stage an armed insurrection against the USBLM - Mohican
[quote]Question is, is the party that was "cheated" justified in taking matters into their own hands via the use of weapons.[/quote] Let's keep in mind that both parties had weapons. In fact, the first use of weapons was by the government, not the Bundy's. We have to separate the right ...


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re: The Nevada Bundy Family - Cattle Ranchers. Heroes or A-holes? - Mohican
[quote]Which is crazy because the Nevada State Constitution gives the U.S. Gov't control over the land. [/quote] That is Bundy's biggest problem with his argument. Doesn't excuse the fed's actions and motivations in this case. Really, there is a legal/technical component to this and a...


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re: The Nevada Bundy Family - Cattle Ranchers. Heroes or A-holes? - Mohican
[quote]his was his exact quote: "I abide by all of Nevada state laws. But I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing." Pretty hard to misconstrue that. I'll read a larger transcript if someone has it. [/quote] I've listened to him in his interviews on TV and youtube. ...


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re: The Nevada Bundy Family - Cattle Ranchers. Heroes or A-holes? - Mohican
[quote]He doesn't recognize the federal government. [/quote] He doesn't think the federal government has jurisdiction. People are taking that quote out of context. It's not that he doesn't recognize the federal government, he just doesn't believe it is constitutional for the federal governmen...


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re: BLM now taking land from TX rancher....but he owns his land - UPDATED - Mohican
So, according to the Constitution (for whatever that's worth these days) the state legislatures must approve the federal acquisition of the property (not even considering that it's private property to begin with). But since the semantics of the land surrounding a river - due to the river changing c...


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re: The Nevada Bundy Family - Cattle Ranchers. Heroes or A-holes? - Mohican
[quote]I side with the ranchers on this, simply because, even if far fetched, they represent people standing up to an ever-increasing bully gov't with no respect for the rights of citizens. They see the "people" as a nuisance. As less worthy of rights than them because they have a badge and a ...


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re: 300+ Nevada ranchers and militia stage an armed insurrection against the USBLM - Mohican
[quote]His cows run around on other people's property, out on roads, he racks up fines that he ignores, they run around loose in Lake Mead national park which is undoubtedly federal land, so they finally started rounding up his loose cattle. [/quote] You're unaware of the Open Range laws out in...


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re: 300+ Nevada ranchers and militia stage an armed insurrection against the USBLM - Mohican
[quote]If you side with the Bundys you're either retarded or you don't know the whole story.[/quote] Here's the rest of the story. [link=(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ)]LINK[/link] Always follow the money when it comes to politics. ...


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re: A good video on the facts of the Bundy standoff... - Mohican
[quote] If Mr. Reid is too influential in the disposition of Federal land in Nevada that's up to Nevada voters to decide. [/quote] You're absolutely right. And now, thanks to Cliven Bundy, they have more information. If not for him fighting the BLM, Nevada voters would have no knowledge of ...


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re: A good video on the facts of the Bundy standoff... - Mohican
[quote]I was fine with the video until he launched into corporate America being behind everything. He speaks of these one-percenters as if they were the devil himself. But who are they really? They're accountants. [/quote] Focus. Focus on the topic at hand. You're allowing yourself to...


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re: Levin's book Liberty and Tyranny - Mohican
They're all blowhards. Levin is the best of the bunch as far as the soundness of his reasoning IMO. ...


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re: Wildlife officials in Idaho will kill 4000 ravens - Mohican
[quote]hunters (i.e. those same ranchers) [/quote] :lol: :rotflmao:...


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re: How can you even make the case that college baseball is part of a "Big 3"? - Mohican
[quote]It just so happens to not be that big of a deal in the sec. [/quote] It's more of a big deal in the SEC than any other conference in the country. By far. ...


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re: How can you even make the case that college baseball is part of a "Big 3"? - Mohican
[quote]Repeat, the big 3 is the big 3 b/c of professional sports, the college sport success doesnt matter. football, basketball, and baseball are the 3 big professional sport. College athletes go to those leagues to make the most money. Those are the big 3 sports.[/quote] This guy is the clos...


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re: Kentucky 54 vs 60 UCONN - F (Screw Peej) - Mohican
UCONN looks like the more fatigued team right now. Gonna be interesting. ...


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re: Kentucky 54 vs 60 UCONN - F (Screw Peej) - Mohican
[quote]UK just won't go away. [/quote] The whole tournament. Just when you think they're done... they're too young and dumb to realize it. :lol:...


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re: Official NC Game Thread| Kentucky (54) UCONN (60)| Final - Mohican
UCONN is playing unreal basketball right now. Great example of how any team can get hot and win it all. Yea. They're unconscious right now. UK is going to have to be more urgent with this team than they're previous games in the tourney. Otherwise the gap may grow too large. ...


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