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 | re: Chokwe Lumumba new Jackson Mayor - trackfan on 5/22/13 at 1:47 pm According to the OP, he only won a primary, not the general election....
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 | re: Muslims behead Solider in the UK - trackfan on 5/22/13 at 1:42 pm The article linked in the OP doesn't mention the word Muslim in the entire article. I guess some people won't let facts get in the way of their bigotry....
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 | re: Which will get more play-Gracia's fried chicken comment or Conyer's Satanic Jew? - trackfan on 5/22/13 at 11:02 am Why should Conyers be held responsible for comments someone else made unless he endorsed them? I'll bet every politician on Capitol Hill has been present when someone has made racist or bogoted comments at least a few times in their political careers....
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 11:07 am [quote]But turnout says blacks were energized.
What energized them?[/quote]
There's no doubt that Obama's race energized Black folks, I've never denied that. Blacks in 2008 were no different than Catholics in 1960....
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 11:04 am [quote]Zach rises for a point of information, Mr. Chairman. What does "I don't someone like you" mean?[/quote]
Sorry for the word omission, it's been fixed. What I meant to write was "I don't think someone like you"....
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 11:01 am [quote]You know as well as I do that if I grabbed 100 blacks at random from South Carolina, no better than 10% of them would have any fricking idea about what you just referenced. So yeah, those 10% were probably pissed about Bill[/quote]
Now all you're doing is revealing your ignorance because Clin...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 10:56 am [quote]What is your problem in understanding language? I'm not IMPLYING anything. I'm stating that Jackson said he voted for Obama because he is black. I provided the quote in my link. This references my earlier point where I said I'd never heard anyone say he voted AGAINST Obama because he was blac...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 10:52 am [quote]Oh my lord. Obama won almost 90% of the black vote against Hillary.
Keep telling yourself that shite. Good fricking lord. Head in sand much. [/quote]
Do you remember what Bill Clinton did in the South Carolina primary? Even folks on FOX News like Sean Hannity, Bill Kristol and Charles Krau...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 10:47 am [quote]Gimme a frickin break. You're starting to be worse than some white dude in small town Miss who says there are no racists there.[/quote]
I don't think someone like you, who shortly after Romney lost referred to all Blacks as "leeches", even has the moral authority to speak on this subject with...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 10:43 am [quote]Meet Samuel L. Jackson, poached ex-Republican. [/quote]
Surely you're not implying the a Hollywood lkiberal like Samual Jackson would have voted for McCain if Obama was White, are you? Who do you think Jackson would have voted for if Hillary had gotten the nomination? On the other hand, who ...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 10:18 am [quote]If Obama is white, Hillary is the nominee in 2008. PERIOD.[/quote]
Hillary didn't lose the 2008 nomination because Obama was Black, she lost it because she voted for the Iraq War and she was too arrogant and smug to come down off her high horse an admit that she fricked up. Even January 2008,...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 9:03 am [quote]I certainly wouldn't use O'Brien and Harris-Parry as examples of normal people. Both as adults can't seem to get away from issues of race, with indicates a real problem to me.[/quote]
I think they're great role models for young Black women despite what some of the folks on this board may thi...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 8:59 am [quote]That is without doubt the dumbest shite you have ever posted on here.[/quote]
If you want to see dumb, look in the mirror....
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 8:55 am [quote]Good point. Anyone can preach to the choir. Not everyone knows how to preach to the congregation though. Undoubtably, he doesn't in this case[/quote]
He wasn't preaching to the choir a couple of months ago when he went to Chicago and blamed absentee fathers for Black-on-Black crime.
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 8:53 am [quote]Doesn't matter. Black/White kids were very rare everywhere in the '70s, and it likely caused more identity problems than even 20 years later when my son was in school. BTW, his public school district here in Texas was less than 3% black at the time. [/quote]
According to other Blacks who had...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 8:42 am [quote]He always says the right thing, his actions do the wrong thing. He doesn't really believe in what he says.[/quote]
I think he believes the things he says but he lacks the courage of his convictions. I don't ever recall a President who was as afraid to spend political capital as Obama is....
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 8:40 am [quote]I've never heard a black person literally say they voted for Obama because he's black, but it's pretty obvious people of both races did just that. Just because someone doesn't ACTUALLY say it doesn't mean you can't ready between the lines a bit, come on.[/quote]
The only Black folks who may ...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 8:31 am [quote]This was in the '90s, I'm sure it was much more that way in the '70s when Obama was growing up. He is what he thinks you want him to be, and right now it's 'black' because he needs to rally his base.[/quote]
I doubt that Obama had that problem to deal with since he grew up in Hawaii, a state...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/20/13 at 7:50 am [quote]I'm not typing all that again. Read my earlier comment. I said exactly what I was trying to say. I said it more than once. If you're having trouble understanding my words, typing them out again for you isn't going to help matters. [/quote]
Okay, here's what you originally said:
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"I'...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/19/13 at 10:50 pm [quote]You live in the South. I lived there too, for 31 years. I came across that attitude too when I lived there. It's one of the reasons I left the South. I didn't want my kids growing up in that environment.
But I stand by my statement, without qualification or equivocation. [/quote]
C...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/19/13 at 10:42 pm [quote]No doubt there are white presidents that receive the same treatment from some blacks. Neither scenario bothers me. I've lived it for six decades and so will you guys. [/quote]
That's bullshite! Racist Blacks never had to overcome an aversion to voting for White Presidential candidates, becaus...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/19/13 at 9:31 pm I undersood your clarification, but what I'm saying is that if you've ever known any Whites who felt this way about Blacks, it's not a stretch to assume that they feel this way about Obama even if they've never specifically verbalized these sentiments about Obama....
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/19/13 at 8:49 pm [quote]I never have. I'm not saying there aren't racists in the country of every stripe, color, and persuasion. I'm saying I've never met anyone who said he didn't want Obama to be president becasue he was black or who I suspect even thinks that way. [/quote]
Okay, it's plausible that you've neve...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/19/13 at 7:52 pm [quote]You know the Al Sharpton's of the world will say he has no right to lecture real blacks on this issue.[/quote]
Perhaps you're confusing Sharpton with Jesse Jackson, who thinks that Obama should have his "nuts cut off" for giving tough love to Black folks. Sharpton is Obama's most loyal foot ...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/19/13 at 7:37 pm [quote]I've never met anybosdy who thinks that way or talks that way. [/quote]
I don't believe this for one minute unless you've spent your entire life in some homogeneous socity like Iceland....
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/19/13 at 7:34 pm [quote]I guess his excuse is he's mixed? [/quote]
Do you know any Black Americns who aren't "mixed"?...
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 | re: Obama -There's no longer room for excuses for black men - trackfan on 5/19/13 at 7:21 pm Obama also gave some tough love to Black folks in Chicago a couple of months ago in a speech in which he blamed absentee fathers for Chicago's out-of-control Black-on-Black murder rate. By the way, Michelle also gave some tough love to Black folks during one of her commencement speeches over the wee...
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 | re: On this day in 1948 State of Israel established - trackfan on 5/14/13 at 9:33 pm [quote]Germany was also a Parliamentary Democracy, Hitler won a democratic election, Germany had a strong economy, Germany had opera and symphony a highly civilized country yet their occuaptaion was also criminal, their lust for the lands of another people was a crime, their deprival of due process,...
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 | re: On this day in 1948 State of Israel established - trackfan on 5/14/13 at 5:01 pm [quote]It's because Turkey has been actively seeking European Union membership for quite some time and prefer to be mentioned in that light.[/quote]
That makes no sense. Politicians and pundits spoke this way about Israel long before there ever was a European Union. Furthermore, the same neocons wh...
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 | re: On this day in 1948 State of Israel established - trackfan on 5/14/13 at 4:24 pm [quote]But if they'd have taken those parts of Utah or Alaska that we offered we would have saved ourselves a shite load of problems. [/quote]
Or as George Marshall warned Truman when he decided to support Israel's creation, "This will lead to neverending war in the Mideast that will eventually drag...
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