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re: I can't understand why people are this passionate about killing babies. - rcocke2
[quote] Are you asking? [/quote] No, rhetorical question.....feels like the most memorable or enjoyable things in life can not be fully explained, rationally that is. [quote]Now that you've dropped religion into it, we might as well move on to something else[/quote] Nothing religious in p...


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re: I can't understand why people are this passionate about killing babies. - rcocke2
[quote]The question I guess, for me, is what gives life meaning?[/quote] To me, what gives life meaning is its mystery? [quote]Just life in general? Just human life? Just potential human life? Or does life gain meaning once life is actually experienced? (memories, experiences, emotion, etc.....


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re: The myth of the Caliphate - rcocke2
[quote]But their male children were abducted and forced into military slavery. Christians living on their borders were abducted and sold into slavery. And there were few economic rights for Christians.[/quote] Wrong, wrong, wrong. Go read a standard history of Lebanon and the Syriac Orthodox (An...


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re: Members of Congress Declare "Immunity" from Insider Trading Probe - rcocke2
[quote]Federal officials should be like monks[/quote] :cheers: Finally, someone sees. [quote]Vow of poverty.[/quote] Exactly, but we would have to force this. Something like, '...no congressman shall enter private sector after serving his final term...." Would require an Amendment, pro...


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re: I can't understand why people are this passionate about killing babies. - rcocke2
[quote]That's the equivalent of "I don't understand why people are this passionate about hating and controlling women's lives"[/quote] No, why are some women so passionate about having the final say on infanticide? That is what abortion is, right? Do men get a say? I'd say it is more about hat...


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re: Priest of the Diocese of Baton Rouge may be forced to break seal of confession - rcocke2
[quote]I mean this in ALL HONESTY...go frick yourself. [/quote] I mean this in all honesty, you're profanity-laced rebuttal shows your ignorance. The man meant that the 'Sacred' things, or Sacraments, have precedence over worldly matters when the two conflict. [quote]You wonder why nonbe...


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re: As it turns out, no, those four methods are not abortifacient - rcocke2
[quote]A Supreme Court ruling that continues the Republican war on women AND its war on science[/quote] Take women AND science and replace them with men and religion. ...


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re: Since when did the DMV Express offices start charging extra for express service? - rcocke2
[quote] Is it even fricking legal what they're doing?[/quote] Technically, yes. Statutory laws passed by each State. When you go to get a driver's license, you're signing a contract with the Office of Motor Vehicles. Does it violate BOR? Not so sure because we willingly comply. Is it coerc...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]We need to start drawing the plans now.[/quote] This is what I mean by 'Illusion of Control'. This is equivalent to buying indulgences, we will control the Gods........


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]response to you suggesting that I "suffer from an illusion of control", in addition to repeatedly suggesting that anyone who thinks like I do is basically not smart[/quote] My issue is with using a tool (very complex mathematical model) for the wrong purpose, namely to project potential ma...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]Then what is the limit?[/quote] Relative to what? Which phase? Gaseous? In liquid phase? What? [quote]Hm, I thought I was being thoughtful by asking if you are alright. [/quote] You were being a twit by implying I'm suicidal because I say many people/scientists/academics have wha...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]How silly of me to accept the fact that CO2 has known properties[/quote] I accept its properties as well, they are well known, but that is not the question at hand. [quote] and to be concerned over the fact that there is no limit to the amount the atmosphere can hold! [/quote] There ...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]You either skimmed my post or didn't grasp the point, so I'll make it more bluntly. Saying "you can't accurately predict the inputs" and saying "you can't accurately predict the relationship between input and output" are two totally different objections. And only one of them indicts the model...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]And why should they be? Hansen's a climatologist, not an economist or a political scientist[/quote] Exactly why we should not use his damn models. It doesn't really matter to him if he's wrong, he didn't have all the right inputs.... :rotflmao: Those who can not do (real world) should ...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]So it's not necessarily that the models suck.[/quote] They suck and should not be used for implementing law or regulation. [quote]The models would be a lot better if given the correct inputs[/quote] frick, come on, that's the problem Einstein, you can't even actually know all of the v...


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re: Taxation as "payment" for services - rcocke2
[quote]Basically the idea of anarchy/voluntaryism is the rejection of monopolies and coercion. It's not trying to reinvent the wheel. Most of our society operates on this premise[/quote] Which will actually mean a more traditional society in practice. I've always got the vibe the left wants a bl...


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re: Taxation as "payment" for services - rcocke2
[quote]If you eliminate deficit spending you would see many people suddenly become small government backers.[/quote] How does one break the link between large corporations and other institutions with our government? It's a circular process, from private sector to public to private and back and i...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]We can't measure it because to accurately isolate CO2 from the rest of the climate system is nearly impossible. For the same reason. You're trying to measure one of the least influential drivers of the temperature at any certain time. Today the temp will vary over 23 degrees over one day. Yet...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]quote: Listen, I take exception because I perform heat and material balances, simulations, and engineering every single day at work. In - Out = Accumulation is an approximation. Heat balances are even more difficult due to thermodynamics and that is on the scale of a refining process, not th...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]You despise the complicated attempts at modeling[/quote] At modeling a system with who knows how many variables, such as, the Earth's Climate. Which is entirely different than disdain for using a simplified experiment with CO2 to make inductive claims about its interaction with the comple...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]Wonderful, so you can probably understand my concern about tweaking variables in a relatively stable system. [/quote] Indeed. Which is why I brought up Precautionary Principle. I would rather have simple rules of thumb that keep us from tumbling in to the weeds. Feels as if this could b...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]I'm sorry if I gave you the impression that I believe there is some direct relationship between CO2 and temperature, exclusive of all other considerations. I thought that boiling it down to a question of conservation of energy, a simple inputs vs. outputs (which necessarily includes all facto...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]I have not endorsed any models or forecasts, whatsoever. What did I say that leads you to believe that I think the earth's climate can be accurately modeled? [/quote] Your focus on the relationships between CO2 and temperature in a complex system, nothing more or less. Especially when you...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]Depending on POV re: perceived harms, I guess 'Precautionary Principle' could be applied to either side of the equation. Typically in terms of AGW, it is promoted as rationale for "carbon footprint" reduction by warmists, even if AGW theory turns out to be wrong. Can you expand on the ter...


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re: Abortion quotas--how did we get so twisted?? - rcocke2
[quote]Well, here's something you haven't considered. In times of desperation, people don't get more rational and start plan things through well. Instead they turn to crime, and start stabbing and looting people. And then once they've stabbed and stolen items from a few people, then we get the court...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]We all understand what a 'complex system' is[/quote] From reading you're responses you do not understand what this means at all. When one works with applied sciences in the 3D world, sorry 4D with time-series, even the best laid plans/models/forecasts are worth about as much as the paper ...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]You did not answer the question I asked, instead you answered a question you wanted to answer. Let me ask my question again in the context of the 40s bump. We do not know exactly what happened to cause it, but it boils down to 1 of 2 things (or both) caused a rise in temperature: more energy ...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]Not at all. The climate is far more complex than the single variable model you've described. You've completely neglected any (and all) temperature feedback effects both positive and negative. [/quote] Thank God someone here is capable of understanding what a 'Complex System' is. :cheers:...


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re: Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" - rcocke2
[quote]The Earth can fit inside the Sun 1 million times and because we're on a 23.5 degree axis, common sense suggests weather patterns are going to change.[/quote] Guess what? Our physics for the quantum world are a lot more accurate/robust than our classical physics of the macroscopic world. ...


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re: This country could use another civil war - rcocke2
[quote]The real "danger" is mass rebellion[/quote] Already has begun silently. Believe that. Some people have integrity which includes no emotional need to announce their civil disobedience. If citizens refuse to comply and/or flood the state with paper, etc. the whole thing will come down i...


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