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re: Which human being has made the biggest impact on human history? - GRTiger
So was Jesus made up, or did someone pass on the message to Paul? If the latter, wouldn't your answer be that person before Paul? ...
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If Paul was born 1000 miles away, for example? I doubt it, but I see your point. Not discounting the evangelical movement of the day, just stating the obvious that without something to preach from the mountain top, these guys continue baking or carving wood until the died without Jesus. ...
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[quote]Also, I am not arguing Jesus. As I said, he was the foundation, but Paul built Christianity. [/quote] Paul would have lived and died as a regular Jewish man if not for Jesus. ...
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[quote]Think of the average Christian today and the things he does on a daily basis. If he no longer believed in Christ, his actions wouldn't change much. He'd basically be the same person doing the same things. [/quote] He very likely would not have even existed without religion/Jesus. ...
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[quote]Ghengis khan was generally tolerant of all religions, and did not care if his subjugants were Christian, pagan, or Buddhist. Only if they submitted to his rule or not. [/quote] True, but it's no secret that many of his conquests were the result of defending those from atrocities committe...
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[quote]Christianity wasn't the first religion[/quote] Fact. I've admitted Jesus was an opinion but that the only viable alternative would be another religious figure. [quote]and some other a-hole would have taken his place. [/quote] :lol: The fact that the mere suggestion of Jesus makes ...
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[quote]The world would basically be the same whether or not Jesus existed. [/quote] :lol: Even die hard nonbelievers lament the irreversible impact religion has had on the world. And they aren't talking about the works of L. Ron Hubbard or Joseph Smith....
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[quote]the Asians were doing the same thing hundreds of years before according to many[/quote] If by Asians you mean Genghis Khan, than I will definitely put him in third right behind Jesus and Ted Nugent (tied with Muhammad and Steve Jobs). ...
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[quote]What great effect has Jesus had on the course of human events besides personal salvation, that compares with the conquering of Asia? [/quote] I will answer this, because it's a good question. There is not much of anything that has happened since the creation of religion that was not d...
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[quote]Always amusing when people vacate an argument without presenting any evidence. [/quote] I'm all up in this thread, just not engaged with you. Also, there is no evidence either of us could present that would prove one way or the other that a similar substitute would exist for either Jesus o...
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[quote]pilgrims[/quote] Don't exist without religious persecution, so GK's effort wouldn't have mattered much without Jesus' religion. ...
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:lol: Nice...
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[quote]My gunpowder answer went unnoticed.[/quote] That's because Jesus invented gunpowder with the help of Ted Nugent. ...
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re: Which human being has made the biggest impact on human history? - GRTiger
Your standards are either much lower for those you mentioned, or your only evidence for Jesus is the Bible. ...
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[quote]Put another religion in Christianity's place and you have much the same result. Put another dude in Ghengis Khans place and the Mongolian empire never exists. [/quote] The fact that you are so confident about this statement makes me not want to even try. ...
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[quote]Can we really list him as "most influential" when his status is "almost surely a human man who walked this Earth"? For the purposes of the thread, doesn't it make more sense to name somebody that slam dunk, no doubt actually existed? [/quote] :lol: The hedge created with my wo...
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[quote]Long before Jesus, a once in a gazillion type genetic mutation occurred in what was likely an otherwise uneventful human conception, resulting in the offspring acquiring the ability to speak. This mutation paved the way for your lord and savior to commence with his long con that continues to ...
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[quote]The thread is about the greatest HUMAN! You can't say Jesus was a human and the same as God. [/quote] Adam is a fictional character. Jesus, ignoring whatever you believe, was almost surely a human man who walked this earth. ...
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re: Which human being has made the biggest impact on human history? - GRTiger
Yep. Like I said, the answer has to be a religious figure. I'd agree it's subjective beyond that. Muhammad continues to frick shite up on a daily basis, so I'm not discounting him. ...
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re: Which human being has made the biggest impact on human history? - GRTiger
The printed word was happening regardless of the facilitator. Right place, right time doesn't get you to the top of the list. ...
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