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Political Talk	re: WAPO - Officials: Surveillance programs foiled more than 50 terrorist plots - ShortyRob on 6/19/13 at 10:13 am [quote]I'm not sure they are "lying" as much as "puffing up the data" in the sense that they are attributing "foiled the plan" to anything that they used this tool on.[/quote] Ahh. Now THERE's a guy who has some military experience. :lol: As you and I well know. "Contributed to" or "helped th... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: WAPO - Officials: Surveillance programs foiled more than 50 terrorist plots - ShortyRob on 6/19/13 at 10:11 am [quote]WAPO - Officials: Surveillance programs foiled more than 50 terrorist plots[/quote] I'd also like to add that prior to 9-11 and prior to the patriot act, there weren't 50 domestic terror acts TOTAL in American history. Now, they want us to believe the foiled 50 in the last 10 or so years? ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: WAPO - Officials: Surveillance programs foiled more than 50 terrorist plots - ShortyRob on 6/19/13 at 10:09 am [quote]The numbers are rising... [/quote] Which is somewhat telling. I mean, I know govt agencies pretty much suck arse at accountability, but you still gotta believe that someone keeps fricking track of successful secret operations. The fact that they keep changing the number upwards sure looks l... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
O-T Lounge	re: Any gym rats on here? - ShortyRob on 6/19/13 at 2:31 am [quote]also don't let your arms go all the way down that'll help too wow, this couldnt be more wrong.[/quote] LOL. Yep. Wow.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: PRISM stopped attacks - ShortyRob on 6/18/13 at 12:43 pm Why exactly should it matter if it stopped attacks? There are all sorts of things we COULD do to reduce crime or thwart attacks but THAT isn't the only measure. We used to give a shite about liberties too. I'll bet the KGB stopped a lot of shite with their tactics. Did tht make those tactics OK?... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
O-T Lounge	re: Any gym rats on here? - ShortyRob on 6/18/13 at 4:25 am [quote]I was doing bicep curls with the barbell and well, now I have a case of "Tennis Elbow." Is [/quote] First rule of weight training is LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. That is also the 2nd rule, and the 3rd and so on. The point? Well, not everyone's body is the same. Some people just have difficulty ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Her majesty, enjoying the best of everything at taxpayer expense - ShortyRob on 6/18/13 at 2:18 am [quote]Let me let you in on a secret. When foreign leaders travel, they don't stay at the place with the best deal.[/quote]You think I'm unaware that all leaders leach off their people? Where would you get that idea? [quote]I'm a pretty staunch fiscal conservative but the travel costs of our lead... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Her majesty, enjoying the best of everything at taxpayer expense - ShortyRob on 6/18/13 at 2:02 am [quote]Note that First family budget is approved by congress including all other budgets. Take up the issue with the House Republicans. There is a reason not a single Republican isn't talking shite about this. It's crazy talk.[/quote] Ahh. The "team" aspect of politics again. :rolleyes: Dumb ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Her majesty, enjoying the best of everything at taxpayer expense - ShortyRob on 6/18/13 at 1:51 am [quote]With a response like this, it's clear that there is absolutely nothing that will satisfy you. Absolutely preposterous. The leader of the free world is staying with his family in a Motel 6? You're an idiot.[/quote] Again. They make very good money. I suspect they can afford a very nice pla... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Her majesty, enjoying the best of everything at taxpayer expense - ShortyRob on 6/18/13 at 1:33 am [quote]Do you want her to stay at the local Best Western?[/quote]I think she should stay wherever SHE can afford to stay. When traveling on govt travel, she should get paid the normal govt rate that I would get and if she wants a nicer hotel, she should pay the difference. When traveling for vaca... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Lil Wayne walks all over the American flag while filming latest music video - ShortyRob on 6/18/13 at 1:03 am [quote] This is all about publicity at any cost. He is reaching the end of his run and becoming increasingly irrelevant in the pop rap world. Trying to hold on just a bit longer by any means necessary.[/quote] I don't know how the dude was EVER relevant. I mean yes, that isn't my type of mus... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Snowden claims online Obama fell short - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:41 pm [quote] I don't think Decatur cares what the federal govt does as long as it doesn't mean Obama committed an impeachable offense. [/quote] Exactly. For Decatur and A want, the ONLY thing that matters is defending this from being a reflection upon Obama. The understand that like it or not, when ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: BREAKING: SCOTUS rules that States cannot require voters to prove citizenship - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 12:21 pm [quote]We're talking Scalia here. Not Sotomayor. [/quote]I'm pretty sure that at no point in this thread have I even mentioned left or right politics. Just sayin... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Charity... a great business opportunity - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:50 am [quote] Oh, I'm not denying it at all. I just think Watchdog could have given me a little bit more than this. [/quote] Looks like enough for me to figure out none of those charities is worth a shite. If the primary reason for a charity to receive donations is so that it may continue to exist, ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: BREAKING: SCOTUS rules that States cannot require voters to prove citizenship - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:40 am [quote]You're showing you are the epitome of a "hack". I just quoted the Constitution. The SCOTUS is following the Constitution verbatim. Congress has the power to do this. Yet you claim the SCOTUS is railing against it[/quote] MEH. I'm simply asking what mechanism IS allowed to ensure that only ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	Here's a question regarding the surveillance - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:28 am We are told that this surveillance is required to combat terrorism. OK. Let's just assume for the sake of argument that this is in fact true. Questions: 1)Do we think that this surveillance is being used to chase down any other crimes or potential crimes? 2)Is this surveillance used to go... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: WaPo report on U.S. surveillance architecture - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:23 am [quote]I'm going by what has been reported on this as to what the FISC did[/quote]You mean the court that NEVER rejects a request? EVER? ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: BREAKING: SCOTUS rules that States cannot require voters to prove citizenship - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:19 am I really don't care who wrote the decision. I'm just trying to figure out how it doesn't ammount to a decision that says anyone from anywhere can vote in US elections as long as they show up to a US voting booth. :dunno: ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Snowden didn't reveal anything, huh? - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:14 am [quote]a legal intelligence gathering method according the the Patriot Act. [/quote] Cite the portion of the Patriot Act that allows for indiscriminate accumulation of meta-data of millions of American users with no cause. :popcorn: ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: 3 NSA whistleblowers. We told you so. - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:11 am [quote]This post (and this link) is about spying on American citizens. [/quote]The MOST important thing in the whole affair. [quote]The other post (the one in which I suggest Snowden is a traitor) is about how he revealed details about the U.S. and England spying on a delegation from Turkey as ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: 3 NSA whistleblowers. We told you so. - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 11:03 am [quote]Well, I don't want anyone to think that he had an alternative. No one should (think that). There is no path for intelligence-community whistle-blowers who know wrong is being done. There is none. It's a toss of the coin, and the odds are you are going to be hammered[/quote]... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: 3 NSA whistleblowers. We told you so. - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 10:59 am So.....reference the FISA court which is the "approval authority" [quote]Last year alone, in 2012, they approved 1,856 applications and they denied none[/quote] Um. Yeah. We're fricked. The Decatur's and the A wants of the world really need to stop seeing this shite in terms of Obama. This sh... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: 3 NSA whistleblowers. We told you so. - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 10:48 am But but but. Navytiger said that if you worked within the system, the government would check itself. These guys tried for 7 years. I guess maybe 7 years is much too quick to expect these things to work themselves out? ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: BREAKING: SCOTUS rules that States cannot require voters to prove citizenship - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 10:44 am I'm pretty sure we might as well change the OP title to, "SCOTUS rules foreigners can vote in US elections". Or maybe, "SCOTUS rules citizenship not required to vote in US elections". Seems to be a more appropriate title.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Snowden didn't reveal anything, huh? - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 9:11 am All of the attacks on Snowden are pretty silly and flagrantly transparent efforts to NOT talk about the actual information made public. So he may not be a great guy? Don't care. So he may have released some shite he shouldn't have. OK. That's a problem. Neither of those change one fricking th... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Snowden didn't reveal anything, huh? - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 8:15 am [quote]But because of who is in the White House, this clown will be painted as a patriot and victim by some of our resident loons. [/quote]To add to my prior post, your sentence above can be reworded with ZERO effort to say because of who is in the white house is where the difference lies ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Snowden didn't reveal anything, huh? - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 8:13 am [quote]But because of who is in the White House, [/quote]Oh spare me. I have REPEATEDLY said the problem I see with what he's released is that it is another example of the continued piling on from one president to the next and that one can fully expect whomever is after Obama will continue and expan... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
O-T Lounge	re: Miss Utah gives horrible final question answer - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 7:47 am [quote]They get to prepare for their question. When you base your life of of your looks you open yourself up for ridicule.[/quote Yes. I know this. I'm not defending her. Merely observing that you could get even greater hilarity of the scouting combine. And meh. I see not much difference betwee... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
O-T Lounge	re: Miss Utah gives horrible final question answer - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 6:52 am Let's all be a bit honest here. Sure, when they ask the chicks in pageants questions, humor is almost certain to follow. But cmon fellas. If they included similar questions at the NFL scouting combine before a live audience, that shite would make these girls like future MIT grads!!!... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
O-T Lounge	re: Miss Utah gives horrible final question answer - ShortyRob on 6/17/13 at 6:39 am Terrible answer but a false premise question. ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic

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