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re: Ex-POW Jessica Lynch on government lies and bringing the troops home - Gordon Gekko
If she wants to set the record straight she should be explaining her cowardice in the face of fire and lack of preparation (i.e. basic weapon maintenance). ...


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re: OT Military Folks: Army-Navy Game .. Who Do You Pull For ?? - Gordon Gekko
having gone to quantico with academy grads and then spent another 6 months at sill with west pointers, I honestly don't know how anyone pulls for either. ...


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re: Gangs are targeting Soldiers around Lawton, OK - Gordon Gekko
[img]http://www.nafogel.com/oor/postImgs/1302141388.jpg[/img] Just let this Army of One patrol the streets of Lawton, he will sort them out (and then pop up in more pictures at a chow hall with pizza)....


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re: President Obama + soldier + BEER - Gordon Gekko
[link=(http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/sgt-dakota-meyer-grabs-a-beer-with-president-obama/)]LINK[/link] The Marine did have beer with him, story above....


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re: Gangs are targeting Soldiers around Lawton, OK - Gordon Gekko
[quote]Are you calling me a dumbass?[/quote] Don't know about the advisory but I wouldn't doubt for a second that there are Crips in numbers in lawton. ...


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re: Gangs are targeting Soldiers around Lawton, OK - Gordon Gekko
[quote]I just pay attention when they say soldiers are being targeted. [/quote] They just need to leak to the crips that there will be a meeting of soldiers at the Dry Beaver and let the surrounding area hillbillies sort them out....


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re: Gangs are targeting Soldiers around Lawton, OK - Gordon Gekko
Lets hear it for dragons west. Also, that place is a shithole, makes Jacksonville look nice, but the commissary has some of the best male order bride sandwich makers in the entire Commissary/PX system....


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re: Collective bargaining at work... - Gordon Gekko
[quote]Exactly. Who do they need protection from? Leftists are always saying the government is benevolent. That goverment will protect us from greedy people. [/quote] This is the way I see it, the military doesn't have a union. The american people do an excellent job of ensuring that they are ...


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re: Collective bargaining at work... - Gordon Gekko
[quote]Every union contract is signed by management/administration. That's who should be fired. [/quote] Well as we can see not signing the contract or disagreeing allows them to bring much of the states business to a halt. A question, why do public service employees need a union? Shouldn't ...


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re: Army changing the PT test again - Gordon Gekko
Alot of this movement in the army has to do with trying to emulate the Marine Corps CFT. The Marine Corps however has chosen to keep its PFT (3 mile run, pull ups, crunches) and incorporate the CFT in the other half of the year. The army seems like it is doing something right here though as they...


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re: Things to do with Nutella - Gordon Gekko
[quote]Give it to a friend, then go buy Whole Foods version instead. Whole Foods brand, it lacks the hydrogenated peanut oil that Nutella in the USA is made with.[/quote] Or buy Landsberg, same hazelnut content but much better chocolate taste in my opinion....


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re: Food better here(BR) than east coast easily... - Gordon Gekko
[quote]What I see for BR especially is a place that is somewhere in the TOPS in the country per capita in Chain Restaurants and Fast Food Joints.[/quote] This is ridiculous, the tops in chains per number of residents would easily go to Lawton, OK, or the Stafford, Virginia area, just saying....


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Menu Options at Marcello's - Gordon Gekko
Live out of town but am putting together an event in Marcello's back wine room. They require a cut down menu, anyone have any particular favorites that should be on it (app, soups, main course, etc)?...


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re: Comedies you love but everyone else seems to hate - Gordon Gekko
Little Nicky, most of America hates it, I think its hilarious ...


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re: One More Piece of Evidence the Civil War Was NOT About States Rights - Gordon Gekko
[quote]The emancipation proclamation did absolutely nothing[/quote] It did more than nothing, as British papers wrote at the time, and as many then saw it, it promoted a Haiti style slave revolt behind Southern lines. It may have been a good military tactic by lincoln, but it was far from the...


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re: NetFlix Movie Thread Instant Stream + Instant Television Shows - Gordon Gekko
Didn't see it mentioned when I searched, but Carlos: Miniseries (movie broken into 3 segments documenting the jackal) is on instant stream now and worth checking out....


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re: Glenn Beck's Ratings Have Nosedived - Gordon Gekko
I want a line graph comparing his on air crying episodes to his decline in viewers. Bet there is a correlation between tears and viewers leaving....


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]It seems all you are saying is guys with no intent to retire should get more pay (I assume you are one of those) than those that intend to retire,[/quote] Really, a civil discussion until this. I currently have no plans of staying in to make the grades that I said deserved more pay. Yo...


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]It looked to me he was trying to say a bit more but i'll leave it alone. [/quote] If you thought I was trying to cast all who are nearing the 20 year mark or have surpassed it as being entitlement minded or interested in money over service to country then there was a disconnect. I merel...


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]t's not an entitlement, they work for it. It's a benefit of employment. They are no less entitled to the retirement plan than they are for their paycheck. If you want to lump that in with welfare, be my guest. [/quote] Fair enough, although I would argue that certain individuals see ...


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]I've been a grunt for 17 years and i've never heard a single soldier say they did it for the money. Your arguement that if someone is smart enough for 20 years of service they should plan their own retirement reeks of fobbit chatter[/quote] So because someone is in the military they are "e...


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]people are forced out all the time. They arent like a civil service employee... their contracts dont have to be extended[/quote] Without serious wrongs done on their part they will get to suck of the tit for quite awhile before they have missed their 3 chances for advancement....


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]And I wholeheartedly agree with the OP[/quote] Thank you, I sat in Log classes today where the "if you don't use it, you lose it" idea was explained and defended. It made me want to throw up. Moving to higher pay for upper ranks and no retirement could only make us more efficient....


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]No civilian job comes with the notion of dying as a part of the job description.[/quote] Plenty of civilian jobs could rival military jobs in terms of hazards. You are delusional if you think all of the Fobits live in fear of their life everyday. Do they still make great sacrifices? Of ...


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]If someone willingly signs up to put his/her life on the line for me and my family, then I have an obligation to take care of his/her life. [/quote] I never once said doing away with medical resources or va help for vets who will never be the same due to service. I just said if you are sm...


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]so less benefits will be an incentive to stay in? [/quote] More pay for higher ranks can be had when retirement pensions aren't weighing down the budget. [quote]the military isnt required to reenlist such people you know... [/quote] You are right, however you have your head in ...


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re: Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
[quote]Why does congress? Why does the president? [/quote] To me those are both more obvious. To me, the military, which preaches that it is a service and above entitlements, seems like a great place to implement this. I obviously favor starting in other parts of the gov (or just eliminating ...


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Military Retirement - Gordon Gekko
Listening to Limbaugh during lunch today a point struck me concerning the protests over the wisconsin Gov's plans and the impact they may have on state worker retirements. Why do we as tax payers have to pay military retirements? I myself am a member of the U.S. military, and it struck me today ...


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re: Civility update: Wisconsin protests - Gordon Gekko
[quote]It's firefighters, teachers, and policeman. [/quote] Pretty sure you are wrong here. The bill specifically exempts them. Most of what I was seeing was teachers and students....


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re: Women are more likey to raped by their fellow soldiers - Gordon Gekko
To answer your post I would be in favor of women serving in all female units much like WWII. You can not say that women do certain jobs with much more efficient than their male counterparts, but it has become plainly evident to me that women within a unit bring (through no fault of their own, its i...


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