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Political Talk	re: IRS scandal is an embarassment - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 10:00 pm All Americans should be shocked, angry, saddened and embarrassed...moreover, this should be an unifying moment in which collective resolve is employed to demand a house cleaning from the top down, and a message sending that this will not be tolerated.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Obama lied when he said he found out about the IRS targeting - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 4:35 pm [quote]Two agents in Cincinnati doing their own thing, not out of any active partisan political program but as a streamlining method to handle the overwhelming burden of 70,000 applications. No, there's no convincing reason that your two alternatives are the only two legitimate explanations. These ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: If It Is Definitively Shown That Obama Was Involved In IRS Targeting... - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 4:27 pm [quote]This is not about republican or democrat. This is about a major over reach of the federal government that we should scare all of us. [/quote] That is the most important part and also the most likely part of this to be lost in the wash. This can easily be painted as a partisan attack to... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Obama lied when he said he found out about the IRS targeting - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 4:24 pm [quote]Your accusation that Obama lied stands as your own wish, a lie, and if you had any decency and consistency you'd disavow it, delete it, or anchor it. [/quote] There is literally no way for you to know whether he lied or not, unless you were with him 24/7 for the last two years. However... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: NYT: Obama Treasury Dept. knew of IRS targeting during election year - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 4:22 pm [quote]For anybody who missed it Rep Mike Kelly bitch slaps Steve Miller [/quote] That was the most awesome thing I have seen in my life...I only wish Obama was sitting in that chair as opposed to Miller.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Obama lied when he said he found out about the IRS targeting - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 4:11 pm [quote]I've already read the story. It doesn't say Obama knew. It says that the Treasury’s general counsel and the Deputy Treasury Secretary were informed. It doesn't say Obama knew, or even that the Secretary of the Treasury knew. [/quote] It says Obama officials knew. Are you telling us th... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: NYT: Obama Treasury Dept. knew of IRS targeting during election year - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 4:09 pm [quote]I think there will be thousands of new stories about IRS abuse coming out very soon. People will start writing their Representatives with their personal IRS horror stories, at least we can only hope that happens. [/quote] I think you are correct. To that end, I feel certain that there w... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: NYT: Obama Treasury Dept. knew of IRS targeting during election year - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 3:47 pm [quote]I posted yesterday that impeachment is not worthy of discussion. In light of this, I think it needs to be on the table. [/quote] I concur...... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: If It Is Definitively Shown That Obama Was Involved In IRS Targeting... - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 3:42 pm I am asking whether the Senate Democrats would lose all credibility if they did not go along with the House is removing him from office. If they don't and it is clearly shown he either was behind it, or knew about it and did nothing to stop it, then we truly are finished. ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	If It Is Definitively Shown That Obama Was Involved In IRS Targeting... - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 2:27 pm and articles of impeachment are brought in the House and the House impeaches him, will the Senate basically be forced to vote in favor of removal from office? I.E., Obama was involved/complicit, it is shown he lied about when he found out, it is shown that he condoned it...... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: NYT: Obama Treasury Dept. knew of IRS targeting during election year - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 2:24 pm [quote]Use this as something WAY bigger that swallows Benghazi and takes Obama down. [/quote] Tin Hat On.... Say Hillary leaked this...it leads to Obama impeachment. Biden takes over. Republicans win back the Senate, retain House. Hillary challenges Biden in the primary and curb stomps him... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: During the GM Takeover, did the Administration Unfairly Target Conservatives? - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 2:16 pm I know someone that had to shut down his GM/Chevy dealership in the wake of the takeover and he swore up and down the the sole reason he had to close his doors was because he was a vocal advocate of Republican causes and candidates in the area. I always thought it was a lame excuse...now maybe he... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Report: AP didn't endanger security; phone records possible retribution - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 2:05 pm [quote]They could have just as easily subpoenaed the phone records for CIA agents or DoJ employees to find out who spoke to reporters and go from there.[/quote] Exactly. That is the whole point. The phone records work both ways...A to B, B to A. You have one side, you have both sides.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Report: AP didn't endanger security; phone records possible retribution - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 2:03 pm [quote]As a possible fact witness to the investigation, do you suppose he should not have recused himself?[/quote] The recusal was so important to Holder that he cannot remember when he did it and has no paperwork to show when he did it, apparently. ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Report: IRS deliberately chose not to reveal targeting ahead of 2012 elections - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 2:01 pm I have to say that I did not think I would live to see the day when a story such as this broke and wherein no one actually thinks the sitting president will be in any trouble as a result thereof.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Report: AP didn't endanger security; phone records possible retribution - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 1:55 pm [quote]Holder is the proper channel, and what he did was legal[/quote] Rex, he was insinuating that he knew very little, if anything, about this entire ordeal. ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Report: AP didn't endanger security; phone records possible retribution - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 1:41 pm [quote]The RELEVANT question is whether the leak threatened American security AT THE TIME OF THE LEAK, not whether it was no longer a threat at the time Obama wished to make a speech. Holder has a duty to seek out and punish officials giving out classified intelligence information, whether or not t... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Will A Hillary Clinton WH Be As Shady As The Obama WH Has Been? - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 1:38 pm [quote]I'm starting to think that we're not going to have a race war in the future, but we will have a political ideology war. Both sides are getting further and further apart in their beliefs and are pointing the fingers at each other. It's gonna come to blows.[/quote] If there were ever another... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Report: AP didn't endanger security; phone records possible retribution - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 1:36 pm So, if this is true, then Holder's comments about this being the most serious threat to national security he has ever seen would be a complete and total lie. ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	Will A Hillary Clinton WH Be As Shady As The Obama WH Has Been? - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 10:34 am The Obama WH has been, without a doubt, the most shady WH that I recall. Do you think if Hillary wins, we will continue down a path in which government overreach and tyranny continue to escalate?... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Bob Woodward: 'I Would Not Dismiss Benghazi;' Similar to Watergate - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 10:32 am To me, the IRS issue alone should be enough for ideology to fall to the side and a united public cry for action against a tyrannical government should ensue. No executive branch should ever do something like this without major ramifications at the highest levels. ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Bob Woodward: 'I Would Not Dismiss Benghazi;' Similar to Watergate - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 10:28 am Unfortunately, this nation no longer cares. We have nearly half of the voting public, perhaps more, that literally do not give a damn as long as their team is in control. They don't care that Obama and Co. floated a false story. They don't care that the Obama Administration has targeted group... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Hackers Future Role In Checks & Balances... - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 10:07 am [quote]Now, that goes for getting it into the courts. The standards probably aren't as stringent for the court of public opinion, though.[/quote] Unfortunately, the court of public opinion really has nothing to do with checks and balances though. My concern is that even media that is willing to... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Hackers Future Role In Checks & Balances... - DeltaDoc on 5/17/13 at 9:47 am So, say hackers actually access WH emails that show the Obama knew or even ordered the targeting tactics of the IRS and release said emails to the public (or they release unreleased and damaging emails on Benghazi). Can hacked documents be used in formal processes (legal processes) by congress or... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Hackers Future Role In Checks & Balances... - DeltaDoc on 5/16/13 at 8:51 pm Let's have some open discussion boys.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	Hackers Future Role In Checks & Balances... - DeltaDoc on 5/16/13 at 8:29 pm Since it has been shown that the Obama Admin will wiretap press and potentially audit individuals that speak out against the administration it makes one wonder if hackers like Guccifer and Anonymous will necessarily have to fill the void left relative to checks and balances intended to be filled by ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	Official Prediction Thread: What Is Big News Tomorrow? - DeltaDoc on 5/16/13 at 4:31 pm There have been rumors circulating of an even larger controversy that will hit the fan tomorrow (rumors started by a Drudge editor I believe). So...what will it be? Geaux.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Obama knew... - DeltaDoc on 5/16/13 at 4:27 pm [quote]Yep. Even after the AP thing, the useful idiots still refuse to ask him any real questions. Or they just let him get away with non answers to real questions. [/quote] In fairness, they are probably scared to now...See above... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: So Obama knew... - DeltaDoc on 5/16/13 at 4:26 pm [quote]And I'm guessing there was no follow up question . . . "Sir with all due respect, you didn't really answer the question. Can you assure the American people that nobody in the White House knew about the agency's actions before April 22?" [/quote] Problem is that reporter will not ask that ... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic
Political Talk	re: Obama: I Have ‘Complete Confidence’ In Holder - DeltaDoc on 5/16/13 at 2:00 pm He also said he would not apologize for these actions by Justice because they were for the protection of the people. I hope he is right about that...cannot wait to see the context of the supposed leak.... Jump to Post in Topic - View Entire Topic

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