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Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:00 am to skrayper
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Apparently, I would fall in this category (having been born between 1977 and 1983 - yeah, I'm old, STFU).
I get that - I've never trusted the post-bicentennial babies. I saw the Xennials coming a mile away. Largely set a bad example for the milleniels to follow, generally slackers and ne'er do wells in my experience.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:02 am to skrayper
Why does it end at 83 I'm in 84 and I would probably be this.. idk
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:03 am to skrayper
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Do you play Street Fighter with a 4 year old, then when you win jump up and scream, "Ha loser! Suck my d***!"
I don't use language quite that salty, but yeah.
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Tee ball is about teaching fundamentals
So, scoring and winning/losing are secondary concerns to your fundamentals?
Americans used to win everything. Winning was the great goal. Winning made folks colorblind (Jesse Owens, Joe Louis, etc). Then - about 25 years ago, we suddenly became concerned with not hurting people's feelings (except White Christian males, of course) and stopped GAF about winning. It's almost like we won the Cold War and then quit caring.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:07 am to STEVED00
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Born in 1978
1. Grew up outdoors- Check
2. Had 1st cell phone midway through college - Check
3. Optimism/Pessimism crossroad - Check
4. Wants government out of my wallet and my bedroom. -check
I'm a proud Xennial
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:09 am to AjaxFury
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If you owned a Walkman at any point u shouldn't be considered a millennial imo
Or I would add, "If you had a pager in high school. We had our own way of communicating through numbers. If you got a page with 911 at the end, than you knew shite just got real serious.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:09 am to RidiculousHype
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People born in the 80's are the last generation in human history to grow up playing outside. Crazy to think about.
Told don't come home until the sun starts to come down and playing guns wasn't looked down at.
We want our kids out the late when they are older but doubt anyone else will let their kids be out that late.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:18 am to skrayper
I'm a member of the gofrickyourself generation.
Everyone gets a trophy? Gouckyourself, winners get trophies.
You want to stay inside and watch TV all day? Gofrickyourself, and get outside.
Someone said something that hurt your feelings? Gofrickyourself, sticks and stones.
You feel sick and don't think you can make it to school today? Gofrickyourself, and get on the bus.
All of your friends' mommies pack them lunches? Gofrickyourself, and eat what they serve at the school.
Granted-most parents never really said "gofrickyourself," but as I've aged, I know they were thinking it.
Everyone gets a trophy? Gouckyourself, winners get trophies.
You want to stay inside and watch TV all day? Gofrickyourself, and get outside.
Someone said something that hurt your feelings? Gofrickyourself, sticks and stones.
You feel sick and don't think you can make it to school today? Gofrickyourself, and get on the bus.
All of your friends' mommies pack them lunches? Gofrickyourself, and eat what they serve at the school.
Granted-most parents never really said "gofrickyourself," but as I've aged, I know they were thinking it.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 11:19 am
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:18 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Told don't come home until the sun starts to come down and playing guns wasn't looked down at.
This. Today, parents wonder why their kids are obese and sit inside playing video games all day, but won't let them leave the back yard unattended. Parents get thrown in prison and have their children thrown in the foster system if their kid walks alone to the neighborhood park by themselves. Kids games don't keep score, schools socially promote failing students, children are punished for standing up to bullies, and we wonder why they seem to struggle with failure and confrontation.
We wonder why young adults struggle with financial and social independence and the answers are staring us in the face: insane parenting, insane school procedures, insane college tuition, and an insane economy (especially in regards to hiring entry level college graduate employees).
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:29 am to AggieDub14
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Lol your analogy assumes little kids are playing tee ball against adults
Eh. It was more along the lines of focusing on the competition while still learning how to play the game.
Tee ball was never meant to be some "we need champions!" It was to teach kids the fundamentals of catching, throwing, and base running so that they could compete when it mattered.
I mean, are you going to tell a 4 year old he's a loser because his friend Jimmy didn't realize he was supposed to run to the right instead of the left after hitting the ball?
Now, if you were still playing tee ball past the age of, say, 7 or 8, then participation trophies were the least of your problems.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:32 am to skrayper
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I mean, are you going to tell a 4 year old he's a loser because his friend Jimmy didn't realize he was supposed to run to the right instead of the left after hitting the ball?
Yes, because he will internalize failure as being the result of not understanding the rules of the game. The social shaming brought on by losing will likely force Jimmy and the rest of his teammates to learn from his mistake and not make it again.
Freeing individuals from feeling the negative consequences of their actions does nothing but rob them of an opportunity to learn how to make better choices. This can be applied to nearly every other arena in which our government has inserted itself where it didn't belong (see Great Society).
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:39 am to Ace Midnight
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So, scoring and winning/losing are secondary concerns to your fundamentals?
Americans used to win everything. Winning was the great goal. Winning made folks colorblind (Jesse Owens, Joe Louis, etc). Then - about 25 years ago, we suddenly became concerned with not hurting people's feelings (except White Christian males, of course) and stopped GAF about winning. It's almost like we won the Cold War and then quit caring.
For a very, VERY young child? Of course. I'm not going to focus on winning with a child who hasn't learned how to even keep score yet. The point is to prepare them for competing later on. I'm not saying coddle them until they're out of college for crying out loud, I'm saying it's pretty silly to focus on winning/losing when the kids don't even fully grasp the rules yet.
People keep trying to imply it's about feelings, but that's secondary. Feelings would imply if the trend holds true throughout their lives; I'm saying there's a huge difference between not keeping score in a game where the kids are not fully grasping the rules equally, so they learn how to play for later on - and keeping score when they're older, which you absolutely should do so that they learn the benefit of competition and the value of working hard. Sports are one of the best methods of doing so, as hard work ties in directly to achievement.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:53 am to Damone
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Yeah, these are the people who are fully grasping the changes of social media. Old enough to have just exited youth without it, but still young enough to relate to what's going on.
I agree. I was born in 1978.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:21 pm to skrayper
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People keep trying to imply it's about feelings, but that's secondary.
Meh. Doesn't feel like it (pun intended).
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I'm saying there's a huge difference between not keeping score in a game where the kids are not fully grasping the rules equally
Then don't have a game or officials. Just have a skills clinic. I mean, teams keep score in scrimmages where they play themselves. Yeah, it's meaningless in the grand scheme of things - but scoring is THE POINT of sports. I'm with you - there shouldn't be tee ball games at all. There shouldn't be tee ball at all. Get those little SOBs a little tiny batting cage, some light weight bats and scaled down balls. Teach them to hit, throw (not pitch) and run.
About 10 years of age or so, THEN put them on teams where they do all the skills, including pitching and forbid the coaches to teach them a curveball until they're 14.
But don't play games if you're not going to keep score. Sets the wrong tone and starts bad habits early.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:39 pm to skrayper
I was born in 80.
I guess this is the telling line. You have to be a pessimistic X to fall in this category. I am a very optimistic X. Our generation is right all the time
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[quote]Where Millennials were born and raised with technology, Xennials grew up outdoors and later grew with technological developments
I guess this is the telling line. You have to be a pessimistic X to fall in this category. I am a very optimistic X. Our generation is right all the time
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:54 pm to RidiculousHype
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People born in the 80's are the last generation in human history to grow up playing outside. Crazy to think about.
I was born in 91 and played outside a ton. I played video games some but mostly in the evenings...if it was nice outside I was usually outside. Hell when I was 9 yrs old I spent my summer days pulling a diesel trailer with a 4 wheeler fueling up tractors on the catfish farm then at 11 became officially employed part time on a catfish farm with my dad during summers.
Maybe that's why at 26 yrs old I'm head of a large farm and part owner of 2 companies with a 780 credit rating making 6 figures and am a member of delta council which is a political group that has a ton of power when it comes to economic development policy in the delta. And most of the people my age are lost as a goose on what they should do in life.
Point being, kids should be made by their parents to learn to work and understand responsibility at a young age. They'll develop much faster and be far ahead of their peers success wise. Stop letting the Xbox babysit your kids
Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:56 pm to skrayper
The Oregon Trail Generation
Posted on 6/26/17 at 1:23 pm to Machine
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The Oregon Trail Generation
Nice.
This fits me, although generational labeling is about marketing mostly.
Generation X has the burden of being wedged between the two most entitled people-groups to walk the face of the earth.
It would make anybody cynical beyond repair. Boomers above us, Millennials below us. And we're vastly outnumbered by both. We are more pragmatic and realize how full of shite they all are.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 1:28 pm to skrayper
There's some truth to this.
Scruffy made a comment about it being stupid that people have to find a group to identify with. It's more than this. I am a sales manager and worked at a company that hired mostly kids straight out of college. For the majority of my career, I'd worked with people my age or older. Born in '80, btw.
There are different characteristics in each of the different groups. We were forced to get training on what those characteristics were, why they were there, and how to manage to those traits. Since I was going to be managing 95% millennials, it was important for me to understand their trait and why they were there.
A few have asked why the dates are so specific. Technology and major events are key players in that. For most of the Gen X people, the first really bad even that took place in our childhood was Challenger. We didn't have cell phones, social media, internet, 24-7 news. We took all of that stuff in doses.
Millennials first dramatic event for the most part was 9/11. Cell phones, internet, all day media coverage from multiple sources, etc. They could have 24 hour access to their parents, and they used that blanket. Not judging, it's just true.
Because of these things, there's sensitivity to different types of behaviors. My friends and I are savage with each other. In my studies, it said that MOST millennials don't respond well to sarcasm. That may not be you, but that was my experience managing people born between 89-96.
Scruffy made a comment about it being stupid that people have to find a group to identify with. It's more than this. I am a sales manager and worked at a company that hired mostly kids straight out of college. For the majority of my career, I'd worked with people my age or older. Born in '80, btw.
There are different characteristics in each of the different groups. We were forced to get training on what those characteristics were, why they were there, and how to manage to those traits. Since I was going to be managing 95% millennials, it was important for me to understand their trait and why they were there.
A few have asked why the dates are so specific. Technology and major events are key players in that. For most of the Gen X people, the first really bad even that took place in our childhood was Challenger. We didn't have cell phones, social media, internet, 24-7 news. We took all of that stuff in doses.
Millennials first dramatic event for the most part was 9/11. Cell phones, internet, all day media coverage from multiple sources, etc. They could have 24 hour access to their parents, and they used that blanket. Not judging, it's just true.
Because of these things, there's sensitivity to different types of behaviors. My friends and I are savage with each other. In my studies, it said that MOST millennials don't respond well to sarcasm. That may not be you, but that was my experience managing people born between 89-96.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 2:46 pm to Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Or I would add, "If you had a pager in high school. We had our own way of communicating through numbers. If you got a page with 911 at the end, than you knew shite just got real serious.
If you used walkie talkies in the mall
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