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WSJ: Black Harlem Residents Discuss What They Like About Trump/Hillary Weakness

Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:57 am
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37355 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 1:57 am
This is such a refreshing article. A WSJ reporter went into Harlem and sought out some black residents to interview about Trump. Shockingly, many of them said his message of security resonated with them, and they're more than willing to give him a chance.

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On Monday I took a stroll around New York City’s Harlem neighborhood and asked a couple of dozen black residents to respond to the election and subsequent protests. I didn’t come across any Trump voters—or at least any who admitted it—but many told me they had expected Hillary Clinton’s defeat. No one thought it was the end of the world.

“Hillary wasn’t strong enough. She didn’t fight enough,” said a gentleman leaving a drugstore, who introduced himself as Pace. “People saw her as weak and thought she’d be weak in the White House.” He also faulted Mrs. Clinton’s message. “She was talking about what she did in other countries as secretary of state. I can understand the situation around the world, but we live here.” Mr. Trump, in contrast, “was talking about the people who live here—the poor, the veterans.”

When I asked Pace, who retired from a job in dress manufacturing several years ago, if he thought Mr. Trump would ever win him over, he responded: “He said he’d protect Medicare. I can go along with that. He said he’d get rid of the Bloods and the Crips and the gangs—get them out of here. I like that. If he does those two things, he’s my man.”


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At a nearby hair salon, the proprietor, a 30-something West African woman who asked me not to use her name, said Mrs. Clinton lost because the country “didn’t want a female president, wasn’t ready for it.” Still, she’s optimistic about a Trump administration. “I think things will be different in a good way. He might surprise us. I don’t think he’s a bad person. It’s just the way he talks. He was real and people like that. I don’t think he’ll do the really crazy things like deporting everybody.”

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Derrick, an off-duty police officer, told me that he considers Mr. Trump a con artist who tricked people into voting for him and won’t come through, especially on his promise to bring back manufacturing jobs. “But I’ll give him this,” he said. “She was not talking about securing this country, and that’s what he was talking about. People are watching people get blown up by these terrorists, and they’re scared, and she was talking about an open border. She didn’t emphasize scrutinizing the people who are coming in, and he did.”


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Bishop Gibson said Mr. Trump’s “law and order” message resonated with Harlemites but that ultimately “the president can’t do much about crime.” It has to start with the communities—churches, families and fathers in particular, he said.

This is a message heard often in black neighborhoods by people who aren’t professional agitators with political agendas. “These protesters,” he said, “tearing up stores and businesses and apartments, won’t solve nothing.”


Then the bishop chuckled. “Do you remember that video of the woman who saw her son protesting and went and hit him upside the head?” he asked, referring to the viral clip of Toya Graham, the Baltimore mother who caught her son participating in last year’s riots. “I really admire that woman.”


Imagine that, everyday black people actually have real fears and concerns for their community and nation. Don't take notes, Democraps.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8059 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 2:00 am to
Ok.

Now, what can the Republicans do to capture these people? What can we do to make sure 50% of black America and 50% of latino America and 50% of every other minority group is voting Republican, so this country is no longer racially divided?

What can be done to ensure future debates are focused solely on political philosophy and not political divisions?
Posted by CollegeParkDawg
Member since Dec 2015
188 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 3:11 am to
Jobs would help. What did JFK say? Rising tide lifts all ships? I can't remember but if you improve the economy everyone benefits.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 6:18 am to
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At a nearby hair salon, the proprietor, a 30-something West African woman who asked me not to use her name, said Mrs. Clinton lost because the country “didn’t want a female president, wasn’t ready for it.”

Yeah that's not why she lost; she lost bc she's a sucky candidate and a criminal.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 6:30 am to
quote:

Ok.

Now, what can the Republicans do to capture these people? What can we do to make sure 50% of black America and 50% of latino America and 50% of every other minority group is voting Republican, so this country is no longer racially divided?

What can be done to ensure future debates are focused solely on political philosophy and not political divisions?



Well unfortunately we cannot vote directly to get a new media
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50236 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 6:42 am to
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What can we do to make sure 50% of black America and 50% of latino America and 50% of every other minority group is voting Republican, so this country is no longer racially divided?


This level of participation will NEVER happen. Aim low, like 15-20%.

I don't think you understand the level of brainwashing that has taken place. It would take generations to overcome that, no matter how much better Trump or anyone else would improve the situations for these groups.

This was a great start.....
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19911 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 7:19 am to
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This level of participation will NEVER happen. Aim low, like 15-20%.

I don't think you understand the level of brainwashing that has taken place. It would take generations to overcome that, no matter how much better Trump or anyone else would improve the situations for these groups.

This was a great start.....



I don't agree. Trump was the first president I can recall since Reagan that even tried. Some of the blame has to go to the candidates and presidents that wrote this off as unwinnable and sent every message that they were not going to work for their vote.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 7:24 am to
If they see the man keeping his promises and trying to help them it will resonate with some members of the community. Hit the ground running keep his promises and DO NOT let a whining venomous media dictate to him.

A prosperous minority community and safer inner cities would benefit all of us.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 7:38 am to
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Bishop Gibson said Mr. Trump’s “law and order” message resonated with Harlemites but that ultimately “the president can’t do much about crime.” It has to start with the communities—churches, families and fathers in particular, he said.


And not a single blame placed on the single mothers who have multiple children from multiple men to get more government money? Not saying the deserting fathers don't bear some responsibility but get fricking real and be critical of these women too.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 7:53 am to
Why is this so shocking to you?

Posted by IvanCCCP
U.S.A.
Member since Oct 2016
698 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:21 am to
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Bishop Gibson

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the president can’t do much about crime.” It has to start with the communities—churches, families and fathers in particular, he said.


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These protesters,” he said, “tearing up stores and businesses and apartments, won’t solve nothing.”

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