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Winning side pays the taxes
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:05 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:05 am
I saw this in a FB post. Winning side pays the taxes necessary for their "agenda". If you cast your vote for the losing side and your policies aren't implemented you don't pay your taxes. I guess this is a "If you want it your way, have some skin in the game" scenario
At a minimum it's interesting.
At a minimum it's interesting.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:06 am to Broke
I'd rather eliminate withholding and then see where that gets us
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:07 am to Broke
The only way it would work is if everyone's vote were public record which is one of the worst ideas ever.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:08 am to Haughton99
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The only way it would work is if everyone's vote were public record which is one of the worst ideas ever.
I assume it doesn't have to be public. I'm sure there is a way to log that somehow. And I'm pretty sure the gov't already tracks our votes.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:11 am to jamboybarry
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I'd rather eliminate withholding and then see where that gets us
If such high percentages of people already don't pay their bills for college, homes, and cars, why would we expect it to be any different for income taxes?
Tax payments would definitely be made at lower payment rates. Am I wrong?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:11 am to Broke
What if you don't vote or don't like either major party? Do you get to skip out on taxes altogether?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:11 am to Broke
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I guess this is a "If you want it your way, have some skin in the game" scenario
Which is why you originally had to own land to be able to vote.
Like someone else already said, this only works if you do away with secret ballots. If we're going to continue on this road anyways, I would ask what happens to the 70% of folks who don't vote?
Also, what about working teens that are too young to vote, but still have taxes pulled from their checks?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:15 am to BamaChemE
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Also, what about working teens that are too young to vote, but still have taxes pulled from their checks?
Hey I didn't create the scenario, I just thought it was interesting enough to share.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:17 am to jamboybarry
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I'd rather eliminate withholding and then see where that gets us
Withholding taxes were a wartime creation that were supposed to end when the war ended. Once the gravy train
of getting their hands on the publics money was realized, they changed their minds and spent the money on other "important" stuff.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:34 am to Broke
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I saw this in a FB post. Winning side pays the taxes necessary for their "agenda". If you cast your vote for the losing side and your policies aren't implemented you don't pay your taxes. I guess this is a "If you want it your way, have some skin in the game" scenario
At a minimum it's interesting.
dumb.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:35 am to Willie Stroker
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If such high percentages of people already don't pay their bills for college, homes, and cars, why would we expect it to be any different for income taxes?
"we" don't
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Tax payments would definitely be made at lower payment rates. Am I wrong?
You are almost certanly 100% correct
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:35 am to FooManChoo
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What if you don't vote or don't like either major party? Do you get to skip out on taxes altogether?
Then you also shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the benefits.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:39 am to idlewatcher
quote:That's kind of my point. We all "enjoy the benefits" of what the government does regardless of whether our candidate (if we have one) is the one who wins. It's one reason why the talk of taxes being paid by only the voters of the winning side is ridiculous.
Then you also shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the benefits.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:42 am to FooManChoo
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It's one reason why the talk of taxes being paid by only the voters of the winning side is ridiculous.
Agreed, it's silly.
With partisan politics becoming so vile, it seems that this possibility isn't too far in the future. Look at the people who (at least) claim they won't be paying taxes b/c of DJT. Doing what's best for the country should be for every American, not just the winning team for that particular cycle. Plus, it opens Pandora's box like a MF
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:53 am to Broke
Id love this. There should be a baseline of taxes for the government to run: defense(Rand Paul level, not McCain level), infrastructure, enforcement of law...everything else you check a box for
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:59 am to Broke
That would be incredibly stupid to do and impossible to implement. What is technically possible, would be to allow people to specify categories for a percentage of their tax dollars to go towards. Allow them to designate a portion for military, a portion for welfare, a portion for Medicaid, etc. Also, make a website available where people can look to see what is funded and how many tax dollars were designated to it. That way, they could shift their "contributions" if they think a particular department has enough money. This way, each side's pet departments/projects/spending priorities can be funded in the amount they personally are willing to support.
I would like to see withholding eliminated so people can really feel how much they are paying in taxes.
I would like to see withholding eliminated so people can really feel how much they are paying in taxes.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:04 am to Broke
lol this country only working answer is those that are paying to keep paying
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:34 am to Broke
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I saw this in a FB post. Winning side pays the taxes necessary for their "agenda". If you cast your vote for the losing side and your policies aren't implemented you don't pay your taxes. I guess this is a "If you want it your way, have some skin in the game" scenario
At a minimum it's interesting.
I would just never vote
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:49 am to jamboybarry
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I'd rather eliminate withholding and then see where that gets us
AMEN
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:06 pm to Broke
It would ensure extremely low voter turnout among conservatives. Then the Dems who don't pay taxes anyways will still vote.
Then we go bankrupt
Then we go bankrupt
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