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Why Rand Paul is a fraud when it comes to a healthcare solution
Posted on 3/25/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 3/25/17 at 3:47 pm
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Senator Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz pushed the House Freedom Caucus to remain firm in opposition to President Trump.
Having successfully defeated his opposition, Senator Paul pulls out the UniParty dance music and proposes solutions that can go no-where. As you watch this, remember the House and Senate schedule spring break is next week…. Ergo Paul says “legislation should be brought up next week” blah-blah-blah.
This is a familiar UniParty ‘controlled opposition‘ trick. Go public and make the solution something you know has absolutely no chance of even being explored. Makes the abuser look great, and keeps the abused thinking their abuser is dreamy.
Once you see the strings on the Marionettes you can never go back to a time when you enjoyed the puppet show and didn’t notice them. Rand Paul is the guy running for Class President saying every student should have a convertible – who can disagree?
This article nails it. Easy to talk a big game when you know it has no chance of happening. Republicans did this for years under Obama with their show votes of repealing Obamacare.
In other words shite or get off the pot. You can talk up a bill all you want, lets actually see it brought to the floor. Not happening because McConnell/Paul Ryan have no interest in repealing Obamacare.
This is how the uniparty and controlled opposition works
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 3:49 pm to goldennugget
So, why did your boy back Paul's plan? Is he part of the conspiracy to keep the ACA?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 3:51 pm to goldennugget
If enough of you guys had figured this out last week we might not be in this predicament.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 3:54 pm to BayouBlitz
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So, why did your boy back Paul's plan? Is he part of the conspiracy to keep the ACA?
I think he understood the political reality of the situation to be honest.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 4:17 pm to goldennugget
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As you watch this, remember the House and Senate schedule spring break is next week…. Ergo Paul says “legislation should be brought up next week” blah-blah-blah.
Are they back the week after?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 4:58 pm to goldennugget
quote:Except for the small detail it is 180° opposite the truth regarding Paul's seriousness in approaching Healthcare.
This article nails it.
While Mark Meadows et al were bought off, Paul is actually proposing pragmatic solutions.
Lee and Cruz? IDK.
Paul told Ryan to forward the same repeal which had passed both houses previously. Repeal then replace at a later date. IMO the GOP would have taken hits for that.
But once obamacare was repealed, Paul felt his proposal would improve status of the preobamacare market. Because of this he thought it might avoid filibuster.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 4:59 pm to goldennugget
Or he has integrity, something almost no one on the Hill has.
He should have been President. Hopefully he will in the future.
He should have been President. Hopefully he will in the future.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:05 pm to OMLandshark
quote:he can't get anything done in his current position. How is him being President gonna be any different? He is one of the least effective legislators in DC. Ideas, morals, and integrity are worthless if you can't pass legislation that reflects your ideas, morals and integrity.
He should have been President. Hopefully he will in the future.
This is why I don't? understand people who vote Republican religiously?. They pass zero legislation that reflects the values of their voters.
Hey, Republicans, STOP VOTING FOR THESE PEOPLE. They do not represent you, your family, your religion, your values, etc. They are liars.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:08 pm to hashtag
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he can't get anything done in his current position. How is him being President gonna be any different?
Looks like he got something done yesterday
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:10 pm to hashtag
No one can do anything alone. Given everything that's been done in Washington over the last couple of decades, I'll take someone who hasn't done anything in a heartbeat
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:13 pm to hashtag
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he can't get anything done in his current position. How is him being President gonna be any different? He is one of the least effective legislators in DC. Ideas, morals, and integrity are worthless if you can't pass legislation that reflects your ideas, morals and integrity.
See, here's how these things actually work.
Step 1: get elected advocating for policy x.
Step 2: Propose law forwarding policy x, explaining to voters why policy x is a worthy cause.
Step 3: Watch proposed law get voted down.
Step 4: Go on the PR path to drum up popular support against lawmakers who opposed policy x.
Step 5: Candidate who supports policy x defeats candidate who voted against policy x in next election.
Step 6: Law supporting policy x gets passed.
GOP is simply too chicken to do this. They think putting political adversaries on record for opposing a given position which isn't enacted is a loss. It's not, it's an opportunity. It's the start of a narrative. A narrative is the start of a movement. The DNC understands this. The GOP either does not understand this, or they actually support the same agenda as the DNC. I think for the portion of the party that gave us RyanCare, it's the latter.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:14 pm to OMLandshark
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He should have been President. Hopefully he will in the future.
I should be president based on that logic, I did about as well as Rand Paul did.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:15 pm to hashtag
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he can't get anything done in his current position. How is him being President gonna be any different
One Senator vs POTUS
Yeah you're right. Entirely equal spotlight and platform.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:16 pm to goldennugget
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goldennugget
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:25 pm to kingbob
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See, here's how these things actually work.
Step 1: get elected advocating for policy x.
Step 2: Propose law forwarding policy x, explaining to voters why policy x is a worthy cause.
Step 3: Watch proposed law get voted down.
Step 4: Go on the PR path to drum up popular support against lawmakers who opposed policy x.
Step 5: Candidate who supports policy x defeats candidate who voted against policy x in next election.
Step 6: Law supporting policy x gets passed.
GOP is simply too chicken to do this. They think putting political adversaries on record for opposing a given position which isn't enacted is a loss. It's not, it's an opportunity. It's the start of a narrative. A narrative is the start of a movement. The DNC understands this. The GOP either does not understand this, or they actually support the same agenda as the DNC. I think for the portion of the party that gave us RyanCare, it's the latter.
2018 is not far away. This strategy, employed now, will work for 2018. Now or never.
BUT BUT
60 VOTES!!
Posted on 3/25/17 at 5:25 pm to goldennugget
Kentucky is one of the biggest beneficiaries of Obamacare through their Kynect exchanges (Obamacare exchanges) or the Passport program (Medicaid expansion). Rand Paul is playing the game of saying he is against Obamacare while never accepting any alternative plan because it isn't conservative enough. He knows that any plan that is conservative enough for him would fail because of the more moderate Republicans in the Senate won't accept it.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:18 pm to kingbob
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The GOP either does not understand this, or they actually support the same agenda as the DNC
GOP and DNC uniparty is best way to say that.
The repeal and replace thing was suggested to Trump by Paul. That was made clear in january or february. Nevertheless, no one wants Ryan where he is. 2018 could be a chance to get more congressmen more inline with Trump and less GOP. People clearly see a lot of republicans are not in line with what people thought the republicans should do. 2018 primaries could be a bloodbath. If they aren't the generals might be.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:24 pm to goldennugget
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I should be president based on that logic, I did about as well as Rand Paul did.
You're a genocidal maniac who wants to eradicate the Jews, so no.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:28 pm to OMLandshark
Has he considered a run for chancellor?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:30 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
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Kentucky is one of the biggest beneficiaries of Obamacare through their Kynect exchanges (Obamacare exchanges) or the Passport program (Medicaid expansion).
probably why they went wall-to-wall GOP for the first time in forever
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