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re: Why Professors Object to Being Recorded (Dennis Prager)

Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Why Professors Object to Being Recorded

It's not just professors. Most delusional ideologues on a rant don't like to be recorded.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9760 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:35 pm to
I had also had a science elective that met one day a week. The instructor would record lectures and put them up on Blackboard. This lead to us only meeting about once a month
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13061 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:45 pm to
I taught in both high school and college. Students need to be able to interact with a teacher/professor and ask questions. My lectures spawned questions from students. I permitted kids to tape my lectures but I asked them to ask my permission first.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:57 pm to
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But when a professor stands in front of a class, he or she is in the public domain.
I agree, and as a treaching assistant, I never had a problem with students recording our classes--in fact, I had a semester where it was recorded for a deaf student so notes could be scribed.

That being said, with snapchat and other social media, I probably would have have felt uncomfortable if I had I saw a cell phone videotaping me randomly, if it wasn't something done normally.

I wouldn't object to it, but it doesn't mean I wouldn't feel uncomfortable. That being said, I never had a reason to be political. Besides, although my ideology is left on this board, it is right in the world of academia--although the really liberal views seem to be presented more in humanities courses than anything I was studying or teaching.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35437 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:02 pm to
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it as such but as long as I hold As and Bs as ransom you'll accept my politics. But if enough people over 21 years of age and the people not in my class hear it I’m toast.”


Everyone knew in college, the easiest way to get an A on a term paper was to mimic the professor's theories and ideas.

So many didn't even want to be challenged - it was sad.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5530 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:05 pm to
Never had a professor take issue with being recorded in undergrad, but law school was different. There was almost universally no recording of class discussion but the reasoning given was that many of the students would go on to run for public office or work for the public in some capacity and so it was banned to protect students down the road from having some dumb arse comment on Roe v Wade in Com law used against them down the road. This made a lot of sense to me considering the topics for discussion in many law classes, and the fact that it has apparently happened before.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:07 pm to
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But when a professor stands in front of a class, he or she is in the public domain. Moreover, the public is paying at least part of this professor’s salary at virtually every university. We therefore have a right and even a duty to know what professors say publicly in classrooms.


Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23313 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:40 pm to
When I've taught at the college level, I didn't care if students recorded my classes. I taught business law and collective bargaining, and since I stuck to facts and law, there wasn't anything to hide.

Stick to the subject and you won't have an issue.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:50 pm to
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Is there a classroom on LSU's campus that you couldn't just walk in and sit down in?


In a large lecture hall, no. However, many small classes have a limited number of seats. I've taken classes where people auditing had to bring their own chairs.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20869 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:59 pm to
This is why as a STEM major I had no trouble recording my classes and the teachers encouraged it.

They wanted people to know what they were saying.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Are they there to listen to you talk or to learn the material?


Memorizing for the test is not the same thing as learning. However, the classic model of listening to lectures and being tested on the material has also shown to not be highly effective. This is why a lot of schools are moving towards communication intensive curricula. Unfortunately for many students, this means you need to attend class in order to get a decent grade.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:04 pm to
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Watching a lecture at a different time doesn't make you lazy. It may mean you're undisciplined. But this isn't really a valid reason to not allow lectures to be recorded.


As far as I'm concerned, if you paid tuition then the only thing you are responsible for is passing the course. It shouldn't matter if you get the lecture in class on on the web at 2:00 AM.

I had an ECON teacher that was libertarian to the core. Didn't care one way or the other if you showed up to class or not. One of the best classes I took. By the second week I could tell you who would pass and who would fail.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16950 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Yeah this guy has no idea what he's talking about. Professors lectures and class materials are their intellectual property.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259899 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:08 pm to
When if was in college, it was normal and expected to record the class.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:17 pm to
A professor's product is his ideas. He might not want his ideas to be taken down then distributed without compensation. This is their craft. They have a right to want to receive the proceeds of their labor and skill. OP is another example of supposed conservatives hating actually conservative ideals and thinking that they are entitled something for free.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259899 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:21 pm to
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They have a right to want to receive the proceeds of their labor and skill. OP is another example of supposed conservatives hating actually conservative ideals and thinking that they are entitled something for free.




So the professor should object to the kid taking notes? Was the kid not paying for the class?
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16173 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:22 pm to
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A professor's product is his ideas


What?

I must have missed the class with my professor that invented algebra, crafted the periodic table, and made the correct list of all US Presidents in order.

They are genius' with their minds.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20869 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:26 pm to
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professor's product is his ideas. He might not want his ideas to be taken down then distributed without compensation. This is their craft. They have a right to want to receive the proceeds of their labor and skill. OP is another example of supposed conservatives hating actually conservative ideals and thinking that they are entitled something for free.


When they go over ideas written by someone else (person 1) in someone else's (person 2) textbook?

Come on...

It's not like we have Newton, Bernoulli or Euler teaching his theories on fluid mechanics or bending beam theory, or Principia in the first edition.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18328 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:26 pm to
You make some good points but UofM is notorious for being an ultra liberal university.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:27 pm to
Most of the "professors" have been in the academia bubble their entire lives and know jack shite about the real world.

They regurgitate a textbook and think they are God's gift to intelligence.

The only teachers I had and respected all had experience in the real world.
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