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Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?
Posted by hawgfaninc on 10/21/17 at 8:22 am50
Like a Plato or Socrates
Think the world would be a better place if we did.
Think the world would be a better place if we did.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by LSUTigersVCURams on 10/21/17 at 8:25 am to hawgfaninc
All of today's best philosophers post on the OT.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by truthbetold on 10/21/17 at 8:25 am to hawgfaninc
Isn't that what modern theoretical physicists are? I'd say Hawking is that guy.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by auggie on 10/21/17 at 8:26 am to hawgfaninc
We do, they write Country songs.
God is Great Beer Is Good People are Crazy.
God is Great Beer Is Good People are Crazy.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by Homesick Tiger on 10/21/17 at 8:26 am to hawgfaninc
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Like a Plato or Socrates
IMO, these guys were intellectually superior to those around them so people respected the two because of that intelligence.
Today - everybody thinks they are Plato and Socrates in the intelligence department.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by Parmen on 10/21/17 at 8:28 am to hawgfaninc
We do. His name is Donald John Trump and his best philosophical treatise is The Art of the Deal.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by Zach on 10/21/17 at 8:29 am to hawgfaninc
WFB explained it many years ago. Plato and Socrates (and other famous philosophers) existed in a time when the whole set of 'knowable things' was very small. Therefore, a great mind could know perhaps half of everything that was knowable.
Today the set of knowable things is much too large for a human to become expert in more than 1% of all knowledge that exists.
Today the set of knowable things is much too large for a human to become expert in more than 1% of all knowledge that exists.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by Perfect Circle on 10/21/17 at 8:39 am to hawgfaninc
Probably because philosophy itself isn't held in high esteem.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by Doc Fenton on 10/21/17 at 8:40 am to truthbetold
Hawking is not much of a philosopher. Out of the physicists alive today, I'd say Roger Penrose is clearly the most gifted in terms of being able to think philosophically.
The string theorists are all hopeless over-fitting engineers.
The string theorists are all hopeless over-fitting engineers.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by chity on 10/21/17 at 8:42 am to hawgfaninc
There are no original thoughts anymore.
Everything has already been considered.
If you think you have an original idea, you will find out someone has already beat you to it.
Everything has already been considered.
If you think you have an original idea, you will find out someone has already beat you to it.
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re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by Doc Fenton on 10/21/17 at 8:44 am to hawgfaninc
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Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?
Jacques Derrida happened, and now no respectable person wants to be a philosopher anymore.
I kid... a little bit... but existentialism and continental philosophy really is absurd and ridiculous. No sane person should want to have anything to do with that crap.
For the last few centuries, the British had the best tradition in philosophy, but after WWII the socialist, nanny-state PC culture of the U.K. just killed everything in the realm of free thinking.
The best philosophers of today are probably around Stanford and Silicon Valley.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by Homesick Tiger on 10/21/17 at 8:44 am to hawgfaninc
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Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?
The same reason politicians are no longer called the solons of government anymore.
From Merriam-Webster - solon: a wise and skillful lawgiver.
It's an intelligence deficiency in both cases.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by MadDoggyStyle on 10/21/17 at 8:48 am to hawgfaninc
Not to be disagreeable, but we do have Maxine Waters.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by AUstar on 10/21/17 at 8:49 am to hawgfaninc
Science killed philosophy roughly around the turn of the 20th century.
NOTE: I am talking about systematic philosophy dealing with topics like epistemology and the philosophy of mind, etc. The stuff that the greats like Hume and Kant used to argue about.
There's plenty of political philosophy (socialism) and "ethics" (SJW's) but very little real philosophy anymore.
NOTE: I am talking about systematic philosophy dealing with topics like epistemology and the philosophy of mind, etc. The stuff that the greats like Hume and Kant used to argue about.
There's plenty of political philosophy (socialism) and "ethics" (SJW's) but very little real philosophy anymore.
This post was edited on 10/21 at 8:52 am
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by el Gaucho on 10/21/17 at 8:49 am to hawgfaninc
Because people with liberal arts degrees are losers
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by Joshjrn on 10/21/17 at 8:54 am to hawgfaninc
You realize they executed Socrates, right?
The general population has never been particularly fond of revolutionary thinkers during their time. Nietzsche was practically a nobody until years after his death.
In short, it wouldn’t surprise me for someone we’ve never heard to be a household name a hundred years from now.
The general population has never been particularly fond of revolutionary thinkers during their time. Nietzsche was practically a nobody until years after his death.
In short, it wouldn’t surprise me for someone we’ve never heard to be a household name a hundred years from now.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by CGSC Lobotomy on 10/21/17 at 8:54 am to hawgfaninc
We do.
Their names are Parker and Stone.
Their names are Parker and Stone.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by buckeye_vol on 10/21/17 at 9:08 am to hawgfaninc
I'm not sure what you mean. There are a ton of scientists across various disciplines who provide very interesting and important philosophical arguments.
There is just so many more disciplines that one rarely is just a philosopher.
Just read Nassim Taleb's twitter. He may be famous for his analytical skills but he is ruthless when it comes to some troubling trends in academia regarding the philosophy of science.
There is just so many more disciplines that one rarely is just a philosopher.
Just read Nassim Taleb's twitter. He may be famous for his analytical skills but he is ruthless when it comes to some troubling trends in academia regarding the philosophy of science.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by SabiDojo on 10/21/17 at 9:10 am to hawgfaninc
WWII sent Western philosophy into the shitter.
re: Why don't we have highly regarded philosophers anymore?Posted by TrueTiger on 10/21/17 at 9:13 am to buckeye_vol
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There are a ton of scientists across various disciplines who provide very interesting and important philosophical arguments.
Yes but it seems that philosophers don't become 'highly regarded' until after they are dead.
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