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Why does Putin want Ukraine?

Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:16 pm
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:16 pm
Russia is huge enough as it is. What resources does Ukraine have that Russia needs?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:18 pm to
Coal, iron ore to make steel and oil. Plus a port that stays ice free most winters.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28224 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:18 pm to
Wants to put the band back together
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:20 pm to
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Coal, iron ore to make steel and oil. Plus a port that stays ice free most winters.


Gotcha. I didnt realize Ukraine had these resources.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Ukraine had these resources.


Correct
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:23 pm to
Bread Basket of Europe
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118599 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70793 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:25 pm to
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Wants to put the band back together


Yep. Except he's more interested in rebuilding the Russian Empire than the USSR.
Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
Member since Dec 2013
1546 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:25 pm to
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Why does Putin want Ukraine?


have you seen the women in Ukraine? google it I don't want to make it NSFW on the poli board
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:26 pm to
Russia has a shitton of ice and Tundra. I'm thinking this has more to do with a pipekine to Europe and to a lesser extent a port in the Black Sea.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:42 pm to
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Russia is huge enough as it is. What resources does Ukraine have that Russia needs?


Communism is, always has been, and always will be, a geopolitical movement. History has shown that because of its innate flaws, Communism (especially the Putin-style authoritarian kind) cannot exist whilst surrounded by democratic, free countries. Otherwise it will be exposed as a failed system and its leadership's power will be threatened. You either have to A) shut yourself and your people off to the world (North Korea, Cuba), or B) entrench upon any neighboring countries that may expose your violations of freedom and humanity.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:57 pm to
A very lucrative pipeline system that leads to Europe.
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
622 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:14 pm to
Rohan2Reed, that is one of the best and most insightful posts on this board that I have seen. It transcends the usually my team vs your team hackery.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 10:27 pm to
Soviet Reunion?
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:16 pm to
If you like your old country, you can keep your old country.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16865 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:39 pm to
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Rohan2Reed, that is one of the best and most insightful posts on this board that I have seen. It transcends the usually my team vs your team hackery.


He should be so diplomatic on the F&DB.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78874 posts
Posted on 3/2/14 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

A very lucrative pipeline system that leads to Europe.


You are a forward thinker
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15628 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:37 am to
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Wants to put the band back together


That's just asking for trouble:




Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19084 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:45 am to
To put it politely, the economic arguments are political science BS.

Moscow is far more concerned with the emergence of a Russophobic government in Kiev, the potential for civil war, and the welfare of Russians in Ukraine. The historical and cultural ties are also important.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125386 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:51 am to
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Yep. Except he's more interested in rebuilding the Russian Empire than the USSR.



Yea I dont think people on this board understand Putin's ideology.
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