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Why do we have to accept the new normal?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:49 pm
I watched some of the Sunday political discussion shows this weekend, for the first time in a while.
In one show, One talking head said that there had been terror attacks recently in Malaysia, Kenya, and some other places. His take was that it wasn't just Europe, and that it was happening all over the world, and that's just the world we live in, where guns are readily available and fake news + social media can influence people into doing bad things.
On another show (I think Tapper's show), someone else tried to spin the Manchester attack as "homegrown" terrorists, that had nothing to do with immigration from terrorist hotbeds. Technically, the brothers were born in Britain, but I find it a stretch to say that their heritage (their parents were from Libya) and religion had nothing to do with their radicalization.
So this is the new normal? Where do they get these people? Who comes up with these talking points?
In one show, One talking head said that there had been terror attacks recently in Malaysia, Kenya, and some other places. His take was that it wasn't just Europe, and that it was happening all over the world, and that's just the world we live in, where guns are readily available and fake news + social media can influence people into doing bad things.
On another show (I think Tapper's show), someone else tried to spin the Manchester attack as "homegrown" terrorists, that had nothing to do with immigration from terrorist hotbeds. Technically, the brothers were born in Britain, but I find it a stretch to say that their heritage (their parents were from Libya) and religion had nothing to do with their radicalization.
So this is the new normal? Where do they get these people? Who comes up with these talking points?
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:50 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:so technically they weren't refugees...
Technically, the brothers were born in Britain,
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:52 pm to Machine
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so technically they weren't refugees...
It seems to be the spawn of these 'refugees' that's the problem.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:52 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Why do we have to accept the new normal?
We don't
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:54 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Why do we have to accept the new normal?
We don't. Do you even covfefe, bro?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:56 pm to Machine
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Technically, the brothers were born in Britain,
so technically they weren't refugees...
So, it would have been just as likely that their parents could have been Christians from Spain, and the fact that their parents were Muslims from Libya is a total coincidence?
Is stupid the new normal?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:56 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Why do we have to accept the new normal? by Jax-Tiger
Well...we did elect a Muslim terrorist for president.....fricking TWICE!!!
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:58 pm to Jax-Tiger
As long as you have people who are willing to die for their "religion" they will be able to take people with them. There is nothing we can possibly do to completely erase the threat of a homegrown terrorist becoming radicalized and doing crap like this.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:59 pm to Jax-Tiger
We shouldn't accepted this bullshite as the new normal.
No, not all Muslim's are terrorists. BUT, ALL Muslims are far more likely to be radicalized because of the fine line between Islam and Islamist.
Bottom line, this shite needs to end. It's approaching WWII Japanese levels. The only solution may end up being just leveling their asses with a nuke. I don't like the idea, and I think even Trump would have an extremely heavy heart about it, but at some point these douchebags need to understand that this behavior in unacceptable and will not be tolerated any longer.
No, not all Muslim's are terrorists. BUT, ALL Muslims are far more likely to be radicalized because of the fine line between Islam and Islamist.
Bottom line, this shite needs to end. It's approaching WWII Japanese levels. The only solution may end up being just leveling their asses with a nuke. I don't like the idea, and I think even Trump would have an extremely heavy heart about it, but at some point these douchebags need to understand that this behavior in unacceptable and will not be tolerated any longer.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:03 pm to ibleedprplngld
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The only solution may end up being just leveling their asses with a nuke. I don't like the idea, and I think even Trump would have an extremely heavy heart about it, but at some point these douchebags need to understand that this behavior in unacceptable and will not be tolerated any longer.
You can't nuke a population that is literally spread everywhere around the globe and if you nuke them in the middle east the ones that are here are FAR more likely to become radicalized. You'd literally make the problem worse if you went the genocide route like you suggest.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:04 pm to ibleedprplngld
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Bottom line, this shite needs to end. It's approaching WWII Japanese levels. The only solution may end up being just leveling their asses with a nuke.
Leveling who with a nuke? SE Asia? Pakistan? Iraq? Egypt? Turkey? Think dude. Use that chunk of pink flesh between your ears. There is no target for a nuke to strike. It just doesn't work that way.
ISLAMIC TERRORISTS ARE NOT SIMILAR TO IMPERIAL JAPAN. GD, that stupid Facebook post has somehow proliferated the entire fricking country I guess.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:05 pm to Haughton99
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You can't nuke a population that is literally spread everywhere around the globe and if you nuke them in the middle east the ones that are here are FAR more likely to become radicalized. You'd literally make the problem worse if you went the genocide route like you suggest.
Whatever. You obviously haven't read the Facebook post that disputes this argument. How bout you do some research into the matter bruh?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:06 pm to Haughton99
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There is nothing we can possibly do to completely erase the threat of a homegrown terrorist becoming radicalized and doing crap like this.
Certainly not as long as we refuse to recognize the root cause.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:08 pm to MrCarton
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This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:09 pm to Jax-Tiger
I wonder this about society a lot and there's another thread that I believe partially answers your question: "Personal Comfort Make You Soft"
I think we're too far removed from the suffering and work of the WWI and WWII generation and we're less willing to fight or confront problems because at the end of the day our lives are still pretty sweet.
I think we're too far removed from the suffering and work of the WWI and WWII generation and we're less willing to fight or confront problems because at the end of the day our lives are still pretty sweet.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:12 pm to Haughton99
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You can't nuke a population that is literally spread everywhere around the globe and if you nuke them in the middle east the ones that are here are FAR more likely to become radicalized. You'd literally make the problem worse if you went the genocide route like you suggest.
I agree with the first half of your statement, but totally disagree with the second half.
If we ban them from traveling to western countries until they clean up the problem in their home countries, the problem will get cleaned up. Right now, we are are sympathizing with the moderates and not holding them accountable. Islam has to be cleaned up from within, but nobody is stepping up to do it.
The ones that are already here can get radicalized, but with no replacements coming from the homeland, it will peter out, eventually.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:13 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Certainly not as long as we refuse to recognize the root cause.
Ok. Recognize the root cause. Then what?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
If I don't want to get bit by a snake, I keep them out of my house. I don't let them inside under the assumption that a snake is more afraid of me than I am of him and that as long as I don't threaten him, he won't bite me. A snake is a snake and is unpredictable and incompatible with humans.
We're letting snakes into our house, and it's only a matter of time before we get bit.
We're letting snakes into our house, and it's only a matter of time before we get bit.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:18 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Right now, we are are sympathizing with the moderates and not holding them accountable.
Are you responsible for the stupid shite Westboro Baptist Church does? How do you hold a US citizen who is a muslim responsible for what radicalized people do in the name of their religion?
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Islam has to be cleaned up from within, but nobody is stepping up to do it.
I agree this is a problem. I wouldn't want to be the one to be the loudest person speaking out against it. It would pretty much be a death sentence.
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The ones that are already here can get radicalized, but with no replacements coming from the homeland, it will peter out, eventually.
That would take a long time.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:21 pm to DabosDynasty
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and we're less willing to fight or confront problems because at the end of the day our lives are still pretty sweet.
People sold their souls for crappy electronics, pop culture and "luxury" pickups. What's even worse, it appeases them
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