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DeltaDoc
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?

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They may use thier own belief system, as system of non-belief if you will, to acquire more liberties. But I find it more that the religious right are the ones who feel they lose liberties when liberties they do not want to see granted to others are obtained by that party. When it reality, there is no opression of said liberty (aka gay marriage), they are choosing to feel that way.


With the mechanism Obama is putting in place to directly take away liberties under his enhanced Patriot Act, drone policies and (see thread today) warrantless GPS tracking, it is funny to see a progressive talk about religious people taking away liberties.


constant cough
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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They think he's faking it....which is probably accurate.



Of course he's faking it. He's a Muslim, duh!


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SlowFlowPro
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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All politicians seeking election and criminals seeking parole are devoted Christians.

if you accept that he's a liar, how do you know when he's telling the truth?

or, to delve more deeply, how do you know when he's lying OR when he actually does change his position when faced with reality

gay marriage v. gitmo, basically


secondly, if our society is becoming more aligned with the progressive faith, why are politicians still bound to claim to be christians? wouldn't that be an out-dated concept with an enlightened electorate?


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GumboPot
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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All politicians seeking election and criminals seeking parole are devoted Christians.



This kind of response falls in the liberal category that we only have two choices, you're either nihilistic or Christian. There's no in between.


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Lsupimp
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
The Religious Left has a LONG tradition in America and are an essential part of The Revolution's coalition.

Essentially, they are SOCIETAL TRANSFORMATION first and GOD second.

They are effective becuase like all good Revolutionaries they can bludgeon from within. This encompasses everything from Liberation Theology which focuses primarily on the overthrow of existing social systems,to support of open borders, to mainstream denominations agitation for income redistribution and social justice.

Any belief in a specific deity is incidental and secondary. It is permitted and even celebrated by non-believing Progressives because it is in the service of Our Long March Forward. It is all but a tacit agreement that when our Societal Goals are achieved, Religion and God will be unneccesary and entirely disreputable and contrary to our Revolutionary goals. But for now, they are an essential tool so we hold our nose and wink at one another....


BeeFense5
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
If progressives are admitting that they believe Obama is lying about something as big as religious faith, why do any of you trust him or vote for him?

It doesn't make any sense how anyone can support someone like that.


GumboPot
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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If progressives are admitting that they believe Obama is lying about something as big as religious faith, why do any of you trust him or vote for him?





BeeFense, progressives only see religion/faith as something to be destroyed.


cwill
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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With the mechanism Obama is putting in place to directly take away liberties under his enhanced Patriot Act, drone policies and (see thread today) warrantless GPS tracking, it is funny to see a progressive talk about religious people taking away liberties.


True...both parties are anti-liberty but the patrons of each cannot see it in there own team only in the other guys...must be the whole team mentality.


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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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If progressives are admitting that they believe Obama is lying about something as big as religious faith, why do any of you trust him or vote for him?

What was my alternative? Romney, who lied about everything else?


BeeFense5
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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BeeFense, progressives only see religion/faith as something to be destroyed.


Oh I understand that but voting for someone that claims to be religious seems to be very counterintuitive to their agenda.


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Lsupimp
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
Man IS God.
We are the God We have been waiting for.
Our Revolution seeks nothing less than to reshape The Nature Of Man.
There is NO Institution, Principle or Ideal that we will not overturn.
We seek Perfection of Our Very Nature through State Intervention.
This time it will not be about superstition and greed.
It will be about Fairness and Equality.
You look backward to your quaint "Gods".
We look FORWARD to State Solutions.


SlowFlowPro
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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What was my alternative? Romney, who lied about everything else?

well both lied/switched positions pretty often


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cwill
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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We look FORWARD to State Solutions.


Keep voting Republican (or Democrat) and your revolution will be realized.


Interception
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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What was my alternative? Romney, who lied about everything else?


The black vote is actually a religious block. If Obama was seen as an atheist he would lose all credibility in the black community. Blacks would consider him an elite.


Lsupimp
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
Inshallah.


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DeltaDoc
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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True...both parties are anti-liberty but the patrons of each cannot see it in there own team only in the other guys...must be the whole team mentality.


Yep


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LSUMJ
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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What was my alternative? Romney, who lied about everything else?


someone who lies as much as you shouldnt have been offended by Romneys "lies"

but you also call others partisan hacks


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DeltaDoc
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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The black vote is actually a religious block.


The black population would have (and did) vote for him anyway. Remember how before he evolved on gay marriage, something like 70%+ of the black population was against gay marriage...in large part due to religion? When he switched, they switched too.

The mental gymnastics that black pastors went through in reconciling their continued support in view of Obama's evolution was quite hilarious.

I really cannot think of a way that Obama could have or would have lost the black vote, outside of outright disavowal of the black component of his genetic make-up.


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EZE Tiger Fan
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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They are effective becuase like all good Revolutionaries they can bludgeon from within. This encompasses everything from Liberation Theology which focuses primarily on the overthrow of existing social systems,to support of open borders, to mainstream denominations agitation for income redistribution and social justice.


This is your answer.

LAT has shown us on this board many times what the "religious" progressives are doing to his church in Cali.

Same here. Corrupt from within. Take it all down without having to fire a shot.

It is really that simple.

For someone who claims to be a former hard lefty, I'm surprised you don't get this.


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skinny domino
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re: Why do Anti-religious Progressives give Obama a pass?
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I've always believed Obama to be a stealth atheist.
this, and about 90% of this board believes he is the anti-christ


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