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Toddy
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Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?

I'm watching this on Anderson right now. George Bush supported this treaty. Bob Dole supported this treaty. Anderson asked Santorum (who publicly lobbied against it) and a whole host of current GOP senators that had publicly supported this then flip flopped at the last minute to come on his show and explain themselves. No one would come on his show. I know a lot of the bat shite crazy far right groups were against it ( Family Research Council, etc.)

Does anyone know why they changed their votes on this at the last minute?

This article doesn't give any reasons.

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In what many are calling one of the most disgraceful days in the United States Senate in recent memory, 38 Republican senators joined to reject the UN treaty that would ban discrimination against people with disabilities.

The treaty was negotiated and first signed by President George W. Bush and then again signed by President Obama in 2009. More than 153 other countries have signed it. Ill and sitting in a wheelchair in the chamber, former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-Kan) watched as a treaty that symbolized so much of his life's work was voted down by 38 of his fellow Republicans. My suggestion to Dole would be to walk away from the party that has clearly walked away from him.

In 1978 I moved to Washington D.C. to direct the White House Conference on Handicapped Individuals/Implementation Unit. The conference itself was held under the auspices of President Gerald R. Ford and President Jimmy Carter committed to carry out its recommendations. The work of ensuring that people with disabilities would have an equal chance at living a full and productive life was a non-partisan issue. People from both parties believed that we must ensure they had a chance to succeed and the opportunity to use all of their abilities. Men like Senator Bob Dole (R-Kan) and Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) fought together to ensure equal access to places and programs.

This vote against the treaty brings shame on those who voted to reject it. How they will look their disabled constituents in the eye ever again one can't imagine. Senator McConnell should feel the most shame for leading his party in the Senate to the point that they would do this to the nearly 40 million disabled people in the nation.

This treaty didn't change any American laws. It merely asked that all other nations move toward laws for people with disabilities that would equal the Americans with Disabilities Act that we first passed in 1990. By passing the treaty we would sit on the Commission that would look to implement it. Some ultra-conservative senators actually misrepresented the law in order to encourage people to oppose it by telling many who home-school their children that it would in some way impact them.




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Me4Heisman
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
Please post link to language of said treaty.


Decatur
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
GOP skeered of UN


kingbob
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
the treaty had no enforcement arm, and the terms of the treaty were already existing U.S. laws. They rejected it because it was redundant and unnecessary.


Toddy
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
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GOP skeered of UN



Santorum was ranting that it has something to do with home schooling.


John McClane
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
Yeah, I'm sure their reasoning is they love to discriminate against handicapped folks. Jesus Christ, do you ever think there may be other reasons than those that are not stated by an obviously biased source.

Is it necessary?

Don't OUR laws already provide for that protection?

You are fricking awful.


notiger1997
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
I'm quite sure the U.S. disabled are treated about as well as anywhere in the world. Why do we need to have the BS folks at the U.N. helping to write policy that we should follow?


HailHailtoMichigan!
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
The bill did absolutely nothing. Every. Single. Thing. in the bill is already US law.

Thus, the only thing the bill accomplishes if sacrificing American autonomy to the bloated UN.


TN Bhoy
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
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They rejected it because it was redundant and unnecessary.




It also has some language against homeschooling.


Toddy
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
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They rejected it because it was redundant and unnecessary.



Link? I don't believe that. Why would George Bush and Bob Dole have worked so long on this?


cssamerican
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
I think the fear was that it allowed the UN to determine disability. Which because we signed the Treaty the fear was that we would comply to whatever the UN deemed as disabled. Which could cause problems here domestically.


udtiger
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
1) Sovereignty

2) ADA is a fricking clusterfrick and other than O-care, is possibly the worst fricking legislation ever enacted.


Toddy
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
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Yeah, I'm sure their reasoning is they love to discriminate against handicapped folks. Jesus Christ, do you ever think there may be other reasons than those that are not stated by an obviously biased source.



Did I fricking say this? I want to know why they killed this treaty. None of them would come on Anderson to explain themselves. Santorum was ranting that the UN could tell Americans what to do with their children or some stupid shite that was shot down by someone on the show. It doesn't make any sense.


Patrick O Rly
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
On top of what everyone else has pointed out, UN Treaties are BS.


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Toddy
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
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It also has some language against homeschooling.



What does it say about homeschooling?

This is going to be yet ANOTHER PR disaster for the GOP.


Jbird
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
Why do you feel this treaty was needed in the US? WTF did it do for the country that isn't currently being done?


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Scruffy
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
What's the actual wording of said treaty?

Also, if our laws already cover this, why would we need to sign it? I don't understand it's point.

There are two sides to every treaty. What was our involvement?
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Patrick O Rly
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
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This is going to be yet ANOTHER PR disaster for the GOP.



With people that already hate them.


Toddy
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
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I think the fear was that it allowed the UN to determine disability. Which because we signed the Treaty the fear was that we would comply to whatever the UN deemed as disabled. Which could cause problems here domestically.



So the GOP thinks the UN can tell Americans what to do?

Dear God.


Roaad
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re: Why did the GOP kill a treaty for the disabled ?
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the UN treaty that would ban discrimination against people with disabilities.
What ELSE does the treaty do?


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