re: White flight has made higher education unfair for blacks and Latinos

Good grief. How do you all keep track of all the alters
I can barely keep up with the convo at hand

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Is this Heather?????????

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How can you tell.

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Haven't followed the thread since I ID'd it as a troll attempt. But the 'wealthy woman living in luxury berating all the other white folks for not forking over their money to solve the poor black man's every problem" sounded pretty familiar.

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If they won't do it on their own, then we need to make them.

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More gold There's a word for that. It's called theft/robbery or you could use taxes. That works too.

I will admit, corporate loan practices, which continued well into the 80's definitely were a contributing factor in the investibility of poor african American neighborhoods. Jim Crow definitely did disadvantage blacks, and the War on drugs has decimated the population of black fathers. However, the problem is that our solutions didn't help, they made the problem worse.

Rather than address the inequality of opportunities by simply removing barriers (equal access to schools, eliminating employment discrimination, ending housing and lending discrimination, ect), the government chose retribution instead. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke about the cycle of oppression, how the oppressed rise up, overthrow their oppressors, and then oppress their former oppressors starting the cycle over again. The only way to break said cycle is to love those who oppress you, and overcome their oppression with love, tolerance, respect, and understanding. Our government murdered him, and his successors murdered his philosophy.

Our government decided to address these inequalities by eliminating the pain associated with them. Blacks were poor and couldn't afford food, so we fed them. Blacks were poor and couldn't afford housing, so we paid their rent. They couldn't afford healthcare, so we gave it to them. Their schools were bad, so we gave them the white schools and forced the white kids to go to the old black schools or else pay exorbitant amounts to go to private schools. Blacks couldn't get into major universities, so rather than just open enrollment up to them, we lowered the standards for them so more could get in. Businesses still weren't hiring enough blacks after discrimination was outlawed, so we mandated quotas. Too many blacks were still unemployed so we gave them government jobs. They cannot afford the children they have so we give them money for more children.

We give these poor communities everything, so they never need to earn it for themselves. They have no need to learn how to fish, the fish are delivered to their doorstep in a check once a month.

By eliminating the road blocks, we allowed behavior to more or less determine at least the difference between failure and moderate success (middle class). By eliminating the pain with achieving moderate success, we trapped them in poverty. Why would they work harder to better themselves when they have enough to get by already? Why would they do for themselves when we already do everything for them. That's not a hand up or a safety net. That's a baited net.

Very well articulated & nuanced view, thanks for sharing.

My ancestors were too poor for that and were discriminated against as well.

I had no privilege, when I was growing up my dad was not only supporting us but his brother and sister's family as well, this privilege crap needs to go away.

I have no reason to feel guilty about what happened way before my time. Same thing with implicit bias, that's an evolutionary reapons since we were cavemen nothing we can do to change that right now. No need to shame peopk for their implicit bias

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You make Jill Stein look like Ronald Reagan.

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Ronald Reagan was dumb. Jill Stein is awesome. She's about to tumble Trump's "trumped up" election too.

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Ronald Reagan was dumb. Jill Stein is awesome. She's about to tumble Trump's "trumped up" election too.

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And just like that, what little faith anyone had that this account was real just faded.

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I still think Sleeping Tiger and TX Tiger are the same person

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no

ST is an alter of another poster. i forget the name. it may be his 3rd screen name

TX and ST post very, very differently in terms of their rational and rhetoric

You're taking a lot of damage in this thread....and I'm trying to understand your ideology here.

If we have to "make" people share the wealth.... what's your response to my question :

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you live in a nice part of Dallas, are you saying it would be okay for someone to hold you for ransom?... you know, to make them share the wealth?

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The left is getting so militant lately...what's the parameters of what's acceptable to accomplish those goals?