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While the right wing melt is glorious, perhaps it's time to focus on fixing the ACA

Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:28 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23647 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:28 am
Everyone agrees it needs positive work. Instead of bringing all of America down with the GOP, both sides now have the freedom to do some positive work. This debacle could actually be liberating for Republicans who want to work to actually improve people's lives.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:30 am to
frick that. Let it burn.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101268 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:31 am to
Obama's crowning achievement.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7728 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:31 am to
The fundamental problem with the ACA is that it's a government program doing something that the free market was intended to do. It can't be fixed or improved on. Just let it crash and burn and maybe when premiums go up another 200 or 300% and there's only one insurer in each state, people will see the light.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 6:32 am
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37316 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:31 am to
They didn't ask for help creating it. Let them die with it. Let it crumble at the people's expense. A day of reckoning is coming.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:31 am to
The Dems have no plans to work with the Reps or Trump on anything.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45162 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:32 am to
I say let it die on the vine.

Also, isn't it funny that whenever republicans are in power it suddenly becomes very important and noble to reach across the aisle and work together, yet we never hear these virtues extolled when democrats control the government.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13604 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:33 am to
Is it too late to keep your doctor if you like your doctor? What about my plan? If I like my plan, can I still keep it as I was promised? Can it still save a family $2500 a year?


Lying sack of shite.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22083 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:33 am to
I actually agree with this - the fix - not the melt.

Trump ran on replacement of Obamacare, not repeal. There is actually good in the ACA, regardless of what some here tell you. Having affordable healthcare for people waiting (2 year qualifying period) for Medicare once disabled is a good example. So are preexisting conditions, though it can probably be tweaked.

Not having a workable freakin' plan in place that protects people being helped by the ACA is shameful.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:34 am to
quote:

While the right wing melt is glorious


This is almost as pretend as Muh Russians.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 6:35 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23647 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:34 am to
The ACA does not exist somewhere else. You mean "let us burn." You are free to go into the woods and hang yourself, but if Republican orthodoxy is for you to hang me as an expression of your frustration, the Republican Party is lost.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98458 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:34 am to
Nope.

It burns to the ground.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:35 am to
quote:

While the right wing melt is glorious, perhaps it's time to focus on fixing the ACA



Dude, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there is no fixing the ACA when it was designed to fail by your party and fail bigly at that too.

It's a precursor to single payer and the GOP implosion helps that along.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24572 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:36 am to
quote:

Obama's crowning achievement.


I know you've chosen to actively block certain memories, but giving the order to take out bin laden was there too. Epic
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:38 am to
quote:

The fundamental problem with the ACA is that it's a government program doing something that the free market was intended to do. It can't be fixed or improved on.

The fundamental problem is that people get sick and we have amazing technology that can save their life ...and that technology is expensive. We don't turn people away from hospitals/emergency rooms based on their ability to pay.

We might as well put a system in place to deal with these realities rather than relying on "free market" slogans. I'm all for free market aspects of health care (incentives for healthy lifestyles), but it's not a free market.
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8135 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:38 am to
As much as dems would want that, it's not going to happen. Ocare is in a death spiral, let the dems own it and move on to tax reform.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:38 am to
quote:

Not having a workable freakin' plan in place that protects people being helped by the ACA is shameful.



What's more shameful is robbing Peter to pay Paul and forcing Peter to buy shite he doesn't want or need or will never use. All just to give free shite to people that can't budget worth a damn or hold down a good job,

That's one good reason why premiums are so high.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45162 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:39 am to
quote:

Republican Party is lost.

They are but not for the reasons you think.

The opposite, actually.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23647 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:41 am to
quote:

isn't it funny that whenever republicans are in power it suddenly becomes very important and noble to reach across the aisle and work together


Republicans are incapable of doing anything by themselves, as we have seen over and over. If some don't start working with Democrats then they might as well turn off the lights and go home.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/28/17 at 6:41 am to
quote:

We don't turn people away from hospitals/emergency rooms based on their ability to pay.



This is one good reason why healthcare is so expensive in this country by the way and should've never been mandated by law.
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