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Which SEC State Political System is #1 in Corruption
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:18 pm
Contenders, I believe are Alabama, Louisiana and Kentucky.
So who is #1/
I will give Alabama's qualifications
1. Last 3 governors criminal records. Hunt and Bentley basically kicked out of office and Seigleman convicted after term
2. The infamous Roy Moore who was impeached, then was elected to the Chief Justice position again and has now been removed from office again.
3. The good people of Lee County reelected State Legislature (Speaker of the House) Rep, Mike Hubbard while under multiple indictments with emails containing evidence of bribery common knowledge. Then his peers in the Alabama house reelected him speaker. He has since gone to trial, been convicted and finally out of his office
4. Atty General Luther Strange was investigating Bentley. When it came out that Sessions would probably be vacating his Senate seat, rumor was that Bentley would pick Strange to finish the seat. Strange stopped the Bentley investigation and was subsequently not only appointed to the US Senate, Bentley refused to call for a special election, which is required by law. Unfortunately for Bentley, the newly appointed Alabama AG revived the Bentley investigation
Our history includes the infamous Wallace, Big Jim and decades of control of state lawmaking by a political system at my University ( which of course doesn't exist). This goes back to the 1920s and maybe even before.
My vote goes to the great state of Alabama although the other 2 I nominated certainly have unsavory qualifications to argue for #1 spot.
So who is #1/
I will give Alabama's qualifications
1. Last 3 governors criminal records. Hunt and Bentley basically kicked out of office and Seigleman convicted after term
2. The infamous Roy Moore who was impeached, then was elected to the Chief Justice position again and has now been removed from office again.
3. The good people of Lee County reelected State Legislature (Speaker of the House) Rep, Mike Hubbard while under multiple indictments with emails containing evidence of bribery common knowledge. Then his peers in the Alabama house reelected him speaker. He has since gone to trial, been convicted and finally out of his office
4. Atty General Luther Strange was investigating Bentley. When it came out that Sessions would probably be vacating his Senate seat, rumor was that Bentley would pick Strange to finish the seat. Strange stopped the Bentley investigation and was subsequently not only appointed to the US Senate, Bentley refused to call for a special election, which is required by law. Unfortunately for Bentley, the newly appointed Alabama AG revived the Bentley investigation
Our history includes the infamous Wallace, Big Jim and decades of control of state lawmaking by a political system at my University ( which of course doesn't exist). This goes back to the 1920s and maybe even before.
My vote goes to the great state of Alabama although the other 2 I nominated certainly have unsavory qualifications to argue for #1 spot.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 10:33 pm
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:21 pm to Bama54
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:21 pm to Bama54
Louisiana and it isn't close.
When Huey Long is more of a minor increase in corruption rather than a spike, other states are going to have a hard time keeping up.
Sorry cajuns. I love New Orleans and a lot of other places y'all have, but you fall short of only Chicago.
When Huey Long is more of a minor increase in corruption rather than a spike, other states are going to have a hard time keeping up.
Sorry cajuns. I love New Orleans and a lot of other places y'all have, but you fall short of only Chicago.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:22 pm to Bama54
I mean Florida did elect the man responsible for the largest Medicare Fraud in US History Governor...... twice
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:24 pm to the808bass
I see the bible belt is well represented.
That makes no sense?
That makes no sense?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:26 pm to Bama54
What about Phenix City? Saw a movie about that one time.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:26 pm to montanagator
South fla politics soo much fun. Cubans fighting Cubans. Good times. And if south fla doesn't count, Gainesville is fun too.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:28 pm to the808bass
According to Fortune i 2014:
1. Mississippi
2. Louisiana
3. Tennessee
4. Illinois
5. Pennsylvania
6. Alabama
7. Alaska
8. South Dakota
9. Kentucky
10. Florida
SEC doing work again. I still believe in the last 3 years Alabama takes the top
1. Mississippi
2. Louisiana
3. Tennessee
4. Illinois
5. Pennsylvania
6. Alabama
7. Alaska
8. South Dakota
9. Kentucky
10. Florida
SEC doing work again. I still believe in the last 3 years Alabama takes the top
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:29 pm to Bama54
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Which SEC State Political System is #1 in Corruption
F**k you Gumps! Yall are not getting a rematch for this championship! Louisiana is more corrupt than eastern europe. We are the SEC's undisputed corruptions champion!
ETA: We had a former governor that was convicted on corruption charges make the runoff for congress a few years ago. Do I need to say more?
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:30 pm to PygmalionEffect
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Which
Nearly every state political system is in a dead heat for the lead in corruption, imo. Some of those states just don't prosecute the corruption perpetrators, or ignore it altogether, or can't lay their hands on enough hard evidence.
The feds have them all beat anyway.
But I'm a cynic.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:31 pm to Bama54
You seem to be forgetting about states who are defying federal immigration laws statewide. It's mostly civil matters but the consequences are much more far reaching than this trivial stuff in the south.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:36 pm to Bama54
Part of me thinks that places like Louisiana and Illinois still have this stigma of corruption and a fair bit of publicity because of it, but that is a result of systems that have been implemented over the years to catch it and prevent it. They're still corrupt - sometimes quite so - but not the lead dogs like they were for so long.
It's like the medical question of whether autism is more common now or whether we just detect it better.
For my money, Kentucky is a crazily-corrupt place. The fact that the place has 120+ counties - as many as Texas - and much of it is physically isolated and extremely poor makes it a ripe apple. Mississippi falls into that same bucket. Neither has the national reputation of corruption that Louisiana, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, etc. have, but that means they don't have the systems and press scrutiny, either.
An underrated national one: Wisconsin. That is one motherfricking corrupt state in some ways.
It's like the medical question of whether autism is more common now or whether we just detect it better.
For my money, Kentucky is a crazily-corrupt place. The fact that the place has 120+ counties - as many as Texas - and much of it is physically isolated and extremely poor makes it a ripe apple. Mississippi falls into that same bucket. Neither has the national reputation of corruption that Louisiana, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, etc. have, but that means they don't have the systems and press scrutiny, either.
An underrated national one: Wisconsin. That is one motherfricking corrupt state in some ways.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:39 pm to Bama54
What did you expect when dirty democrats ran the south for generations and a lot of them just change the letter behind their name to R just to stay in office?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:49 pm to Sentrius
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What did you expect when dirty democrats ran the south for generations and a lot of them just change the letter behind their name to R just to stay in office?
Exactly...same people...new party
Posted on 4/10/17 at 10:52 pm to cokebottleag
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Huey Long
Seriously? You're reaching back 80+ years? Jeez, at least use Edwin Edwards.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:35 pm to Bama54
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Which SEC State Political System is #1 in Corruption
Need to define corruption, first. The Forbes link from 2014 only focuses on one area.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 12:16 am to montanagator
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I mean Florida did elect the man responsible for the largest Medicare Fraud in US History Governor...... twice
They also had the Go Gata lady who probably can't read
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:03 am to Bama54
Bama going blue
Posted on 4/11/17 at 5:30 am to Bama54
actual bumper sticker for Edwin Edwards
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 5:31 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 5:46 am to the808bass
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It's Mississippi
That may be true but the methods used to determine it leave a lot to question as they don't reveal the details.
quote:
The researchers studied more than 25,000 convictions of public officials for violation of federal corruption laws between 1976 and 2008 as well as patterns in state spending to develop a corruption index that estimates the most and least corrupt states in the union. Based on this method, the the most corrupt states are:
I normally find bullshite like this is used to generate the findings the researchers wanted.
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