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re: Where did all the Conservatives Go?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:44 pm to AUbused
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:44 pm to AUbused
It's true.
Trump did as well as any reasonable person could have expected last night.
But it doesn't change the fact he's not much of a conservative. That said, a lot of us voted for him knowing that, because the alternative was pure shite and we thought Trump could still accomplish some decent things even though we differ from his worldview.
Hence I'm not really bitching about last night, and anyone who voted for him should have known this is the best we could hope for.
Trump did as well as any reasonable person could have expected last night.
But it doesn't change the fact he's not much of a conservative. That said, a lot of us voted for him knowing that, because the alternative was pure shite and we thought Trump could still accomplish some decent things even though we differ from his worldview.
Hence I'm not really bitching about last night, and anyone who voted for him should have known this is the best we could hope for.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:44 pm to AUbused
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It seems like an endorsement from Van fricking Jones should have some people concerned.
Apparently you didn't hear Van's comments. Except for "one" moment during the speech Van said he opposed every point Trump made.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:44 pm to AUbused
Been saying this since last night, Obama or Clinton could have easily delivered the vast majority of that speech last night. Of course, there would have been a much different reaction to it on this board......
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:47 pm to AUbused
It was definitely centered around nationalism, law and order, and big government programs.
A good term to describe such an idealogy should be National Socialism. An idealogy centered around national pride, native citizens helping one another with a strong central government providing a safety net and putting its own people first while getting rid of undesirable outsiders.
A good term to describe such an idealogy should be National Socialism. An idealogy centered around national pride, native citizens helping one another with a strong central government providing a safety net and putting its own people first while getting rid of undesirable outsiders.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:48 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Been saying this since last night, Obama or Clinton could have easily delivered the vast majority of that speech last night. Of course, there would have been a much different reaction to it on this board......
Your need to be a victim is noted.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:49 pm to kingbob
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1/3 are Libertarians who still post here sometimes lauding Trump and sometimes deriding him
I'm in this camp of calling balls, strikes and hits.
Last night's speech was a double, no triple because of policy differences.
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1/3 left the board due to the Trumpkins becoming insufferable with their overuse of the word "cuck".
There are some of those that are still around like UHTiger, TN Bhoy and maybe Dawg in Beaumont although he hasn't posted in a long time?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:50 pm to ShortyRob
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I support him almost entirely because he's fricking blowing up the identity politics game
I think he's making it way worse
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:50 pm to rbWarEagle
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shite AG
You scared a little Jeffy baw? You got a gro op in your closet? As soon as Sessions gets all his ducks in a row, then Trump can break the bad news about entitlememt cuts.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Your need to be a victim is noted.
I'm counting on you.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:51 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Been saying this since last night, Obama or Clinton could have easily delivered the vast majority of that speech last night. Of course, there would have been a much different reaction to it on this board......
Is this the new talking point that was manufactured this morning?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:51 pm to kingbob
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Says "cuck" is overused
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Uses the word "Trumpkin"
lol
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:51 pm to AUbused
What a shite thread
Who the hell is putting out shite talking points?
Who the hell is putting out shite talking points?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:52 pm to CAD703X
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TRUMP was never a republican nor democrat.
i for one voted for him to see him wreck shite and i am not a dissapoint.
This. Also I'm not a conservative or a republican. I'm an American. And most of the time during my lifetime the Republican Party more matched my life perspective more than democrats.
Trump, in the form of a hostile takeover of the Republican Party, matches mine almost exactly. I don't necessarily mind spending government money. But I want it INVESTED, not WASTED. Big difference.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:54 pm to deltaland
Said he was going to turn the GOP into the worker's party. It seems to be often referred to as national populism nowadays.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:54 pm to AUbused
There is no such thing as fiscal conservatism. Government always gets bigger, not smaller. Can you point me to a president that left office with a smaller government than when he entered?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:56 pm to CAD703X
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i for one voted for him to see him wreck shite
Same.
I'd rather watch shite burn than elect another Obama, Hillary, etc...
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:56 pm to AUbused
He was smart enough to ride the horse of a major party. He is a mix of both which is why the liberal outrage is laughable.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:57 pm to AUstar
He's at least trying to cut the bloated EPA/State and other inefficient things.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:57 pm to AUbused
I've started threads positing the idea that Trump will spend in order to co-opt the Dem Base and stack the Supreme Court for decades to come.
Further, Spending (credit/deficit/debt-based) will be required to get us over a hump until a REAL economy can resume. Getting over that 'hump' and addressing monumental economic dynamics re technological change, psychological work dysfunction in a lot of our spoiled, entitlement-minded populous and the massive unemployment therein, will be no easy task. I'm not sure Jesus could pull it off; though he didn't try the last time.
Jones is smart. And I suspect that like many, his Authoritarian Socialist Ideological leaning is well-intentioned.
Bottom line. Any way we cut it, IF we indeed move forward into a monumental high-tech age, things are not going back to the old economic model of subsistence basics being earned and relative to an individual's personal market-based value in offering a particular good or service. That has been morally challenged, and is gone. Lest the System implodes, anarchy prevails...and a lot of the weak go away.
Further, Spending (credit/deficit/debt-based) will be required to get us over a hump until a REAL economy can resume. Getting over that 'hump' and addressing monumental economic dynamics re technological change, psychological work dysfunction in a lot of our spoiled, entitlement-minded populous and the massive unemployment therein, will be no easy task. I'm not sure Jesus could pull it off; though he didn't try the last time.
Jones is smart. And I suspect that like many, his Authoritarian Socialist Ideological leaning is well-intentioned.
Bottom line. Any way we cut it, IF we indeed move forward into a monumental high-tech age, things are not going back to the old economic model of subsistence basics being earned and relative to an individual's personal market-based value in offering a particular good or service. That has been morally challenged, and is gone. Lest the System implodes, anarchy prevails...and a lot of the weak go away.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:58 pm to rbWarEagle
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Wreck shite like appointing a shite AG? Or like compiling the debt with a lack of entitlement cuts and increased military spending?
agree/disagree more things will change under a trump presidency than any bush/clinton/obama/clinton/bush/republican/democrat/establishment ever would?
good or bad i dont fricking care anymore. i just want shite stirred because the alternative is simply more misery and an ever growing government industry.
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