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What standard do you apply to a prez firing an FBI dir for investigating something
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:08 pm
that the President sincerely believes is a farce? When is it okay to fire such an FBI director? In your opinion.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 9:16 pm
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:09 pm to baybeefeetz
President can fire FBI Director at any time for any reason.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:09 pm to baybeefeetz
Anytime for any reason
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:10 pm to baybeefeetz
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When is it okay to fire such an FBI director
Whenever he wants...we elected him to reign the bureaucracy in...not the status quo
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:10 pm to Douboy
Right so you would never criticize any president's firing of any FBI director. Okay.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:10 pm to Douboy
Actions have consequences though am I right
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:11 pm to Douboy
quote:
President can fire FBI Director at any time for any reason.
Yep. Anyone who tells you there is some "separation of powers" in relation to the FBI is FOS. There is none. The president can fire the FBI director at any time for any reason.
It is up to Congress and the SCOTUS to keep a check on the president.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:12 pm to AUstar
This is a political question, and it's personal. Not a
Constitutional question in this thread.
Constitutional question in this thread.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:13 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
Right so you would never criticize any president's firing of any FBI director. Okay.
That wasn't your question.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:13 pm to baybeefeetz
How about you stop being a typical leftist fig and just fricking state your point?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:14 pm to Rekrul
Read OP again, count. I edited.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:14 pm to baybeefeetz
Is the director the only one investigating?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:17 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
This is a political question, and it's personal. Not a
Constitutional question in this thread.
If Obama fired his FBI director for what I perceived as a shady reason, then I'm fine with it. However, if there was something "there" to investigate, I would hope CONGRESS would do it (it's their job).
I agree Congress is not a good investigative body (too political), but that's the system we have. There was a time when Congress could appoint a special counsel, but that law expired in 1999 and Congress did not renew it. Now all special counsels are appointed by the DoJ, which is still under the purview of the president.
If people see this as unfair or rigged in favor of the president, then it's up to Congress to change the law.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:18 pm to baybeefeetz
I get what you are saying. Trump had every right to fire Comey. Trump has not committed criminal obstruction. However, congress can still try to impeach him if they feel he was intending to obstruct, even if there isn't any criminal culpability (I just learned this tonight. It has never happened...but theoretically it could).
ETA: I should add that should this happen I would imagine there would be a case presented to the judicial branch if congress can impeach for "high crimes and misdemeanors" when no crime was committed.
ETA: I should add that should this happen I would imagine there would be a case presented to the judicial branch if congress can impeach for "high crimes and misdemeanors" when no crime was committed.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:20 pm to AUstar
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it's their job).
To them their job is basically to fundraise for reelection and use their position to enrich themselves. Every last one of em.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:21 pm to baybeefeetz
A coverup is total bullshite, Trump is all about image and has been his whole life because the success of his businesses depends on that just like any other business.
There is no fricking way he's going to fire Comey when he (Trump) did something wrong or illegal, forget it.
There is no fricking way he's going to fire Comey when he (Trump) did something wrong or illegal, forget it.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:23 pm to baybeefeetz
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Right so you would never criticize any president's firing of any FBI director.
Of course you can criticize.
But it's not illegal or wrong for him to fire any FBI director for any reason.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:27 pm to Rekrul
I find it hilarious that everyone is in meltdown mode over Comey's firing, as if Comey was the only person who was capable at the FBI and only one involved doing this investigation. Yet at the same time, they praise and welcome Mueller as a special prosecutor as if Comey and FBI was incompetent.. which is it? Can't have it both ways..
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:36 pm to baybeefeetz
If it's not clear to you by now that Comey needed to be fired than no one here will convince you.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:38 pm to baybeefeetz
If the FBI director is wasting time chasing fantasies, he probably should be fired.
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