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What is with this kidnapping stuff lately, has it always been this bad?

Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:53 am
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15035 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 2:53 am
To me growing up in the 60s and 70s it was something crazy people did like hijacking an airplane. Then a bit later you had divorced mom or dad taking the kids.

But what is the deal with just simply flat out snatching kids away from the sidewalk or park?

Why was this not happening earlier and if it was, why was it not news?

LINK

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29615 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:11 am to
Definitely not pedo rings. Libs say this is too crazy to be true.
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:13 am to
Trafficking in persons is a billion dollar business now a days.

11 Facts About Human Trafficking

quote:

7. California harbors 3 of the FBI’s 13 highest child sex trafficking areas on the nation: Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Diego.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:29 am to
I wonder if it could possibly have anything to do with immigrants?

Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:35 am to
I wonder what the historical stats look like. Often times things aren't any worse than before, we just start hearing about them.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:45 am to
quote:

Why was this not happening earlier and if it was, why was it not news?
It has been happening for a loooong time. I do wish more attention was brought to it.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:11 am to
quote:

It has been happening for a loooong time. I do wish more attention was brought to it.




very well referenced info

A snippet below (from WaPo)...

quote:

Just a few years later, yet another case broke in the state of Florida. On February 7 of 1987, not long before the Franklin and the Spence cases broke, the Washington Post ran an interesting story that did not at the time seem to have any particular national significance. The article concerned a case of possible kidnapping and child abuse, and read in part as follows:

“Authorities investigating the alleged abuse of six children found with two men in a Tallahassee, Fla., park discovered material yesterday in the Washington area that they say points to a 1960's style commune called the Finders, described in a court document as a 'cult' that allegedly conducted 'brainwashing' and used children 'in rituals.'
“D.C. police, who searched a Northeast Washington warehouse linked to the group removed large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs and photographic contact sheets. Some photos visible through a bag carried from the warehouse at 1307 Fourth St. NE were wallet-sized pictures of children, similar to school photos, and some were of naked children.

“D.C. police sources said some of the items seized yesterday showed pictures of children engaged in what appeared to be 'cult rituals.' Officials of the U.S. Customs Service, called in to aid in the investigation, said that the material seized yesterday includes photos showing children involved in bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains.

“Customs officials said they were looking into whether a child pornography operation was being conducted ... Their links to the D.C. area have led authorities into a far-reaching investigation that includes the Finders - a group of about 40 people that court documents allege is led by a man named Marion Pettie - and their various homes, including the duplex apartment building in Glover Park, the Northeast Washington warehouse and a 90 acre farm in rural Madison County, Va. ...

“The children, identified in a court document only by the first names of Honeybee, John, Franklin, Bee Bee, Max and Mary, were described as 'dirty, unkempt, hungry, disturbed and agitated.' They had been living in the rear of the van for some time, the document said. Yesterday, police spokesman Hunt said one of the children, a 6 yr. old girl, 'showed signs of sexual abuse' ...

“Five of the children were uncommunicative, according to police, and none seemed to recognize objects such as typewriters and staplers. However, the oldest was able to give investigators some information. She said that the two men 'were their teachers,' according to Hunt ...

“Before their arrests in the park, [the two adult caretakers] had told police that they were teachers from Washington 'transporting these children to Mexico and a school for brilliant children,' according to Hunt. When police asked the men where the children's mothers were they said they were being weaned from their mothers.”


quote:

REFERENCES:

1. Bouchard, Joseph E., Ed Bruske, Mary Thorton, John Harris and Linda Wheeler “Officials Describe 'Cult Rituals' in Child Abuse Case,” Washington Post, February 7, 1987
2. Davies, Nick and Jeevan Vasager “Global Porn Ring Broken,” Guardian UK, January 11, 2001
3. Landsberg, Michelle “Incest: Stop the Nonsense and Get to the Difficult Truth,” The Toronto Star, February 4, 1996
4. Martinez, Ramon J. “Report of Investigation,” United States Customs Service Documents, February 7, 1987; February 12, 1987; April 13, 1987
5. Thomas, Kenn and Len Bracken “The Finders' Keeper,” Steamshovel Press, Issue #16, 1998
6. Tyner, Arlene “Mind Control Part 3: The Blowback Effect of Brain Tampering,” Probe Magazine, July-August, 2000
7. Witkin, Gordon, Peter Cary and Ancel Martinez “Through a Glass, Very Darkly,” U.S. News and World Report, December 27, 1993 - January 3, 1994
8. Young, Vaughn and Trevor Meldal-Johnsen The Interpol Connection, Dial Press, 1979
9. “Belgian Porn Scandal Leads to Florida Raid,” Los Angeles Times, August 15, 2000


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:13 am to
quote:

I wonder what the historical stats look like. Often times things aren't any worse than before, we just start hearing about them.
I do not believe it's any worse, and as always, most kidnappers know the the victim.
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